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But I'm less fond of betting lines.

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why? it makes things very clear.

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Only if there is a line judge. I have an essay here I have been working on for a few month (meaning I have an outline and I need ot go back and write it) about the problems with betting lines. Betting lines are clearly in smaller markets where people just don't shoot big angles. The main thing a betting line does is introduce new angle to shoot. One I saw most recetnly the other day is a player picks up some chips and throws them forward so they stop short of the betting line. Someone sitting next to the player can see they are over the line, but someone at the other end of the table jsut sees that he threw some chips forward.

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RR, in a case like this, wouldn't it be appropriate to simply ask the dealer if the bet is over the line?

edit to add: I'm pro betting line, although I don't have the B&M experience of most of the posters here, and certainly not as much NL B&M experience.

Poker tables are just naturally so cramped that it's difficult for me to manage my chips and cards without the line. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think that for most non-veteran players it's a relief to be able to count out chips without worrying about an accidental muck or a stringbet.