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Old 04-02-2007, 03:15 AM
KEW KEW is offline
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Default Re: 2nd pair w/ nut flush draw

The problem with not shoving is any other action we take leave us in a bad spot on the turn should we not improve..Think about these situations...

1..Hero calls and button pots the turn..

2..Hero make a "standard" re-raise that is called...

There is no way to assume villain pays us off if we do spike the flush on the turn...

What hand is villain betting and raising with that our pair of 8s can beat UI???

With these combo draws even when you are behind it only take a small amout of FE% to swing the hand to a big +EV winner...This is not true if you wait until the turn..

Combo draws want to see 2 more cards and the only way to insure this is to shove it in on the flop..Combo draws suffer greatly when forced to fold on the turn..

Pushing is also great for Metagame reason..You will be seen as a maniac and some will fear raising you with less then the nuts..
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