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Old 03-22-2007, 09:44 AM
Keiju Keiju is offline
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Default Re: 200/400 v Benyamine. River (bluff?) Shove

If villain is "cally" why are we trying to push him off a very likely made hand? Why would you value shove when river bet is big from villain and he is representing better than pair of tens.

Not to mention "El mujeriego raises to $799, and is all in", if villain is bluffing on flop (very unlikely as showdown is already guranteed and pot is small so no bets go in unless its for value), he dosnt bluff again on the turn unless hes sure hero is on draw as hero will never float here. I think the chance that he is bluffing increases as the pot gets bigger but he got to that stage by betting when he most likely was not bluffing (on the flop).

After all of this hero shoves when flush hits; this wouldnt make sense unless hero has actually hit the flush so hero has deffinately turned this into a bluff. Hero is never really bluffing in this spot, so heroes kind of used villains strength as a pivot to show even more strength on his part. (Also using a sort of PLO technique as hero holds the card blocking nut flush, but villain never folds a flush here i guess)

Why did you decide to turn TPTK into a bluff anyway. If you called the flop and turn then it seems obvious your not calling to bluff on river. But then you bluff shove on river?!!? If your thinking of bluffing him off why not on the turn instead? when did you decide to discard TPTK and respresent the flush draw instead?
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