[Phil153]

So the studies showing that AA has zero effect, and the Harvard reviewed studies that show 80% of people who achieve long term sobriety do so without AA, are nonsense?

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if it works for 1% of the people who attened a meeting, its working.

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Wow. No. There is something called spontaneous remission - with all diseases, some percentage of people get better REGARDLESS OF MEDICATION OR THERAPY. AA's success does not exceed the spontaneous remission rate. Ergo, IT DOES NOT WORK. Period. This is basic science and common sense. Your kind of thinking is why snake oil salesmen and charlatans have prospered through the ages and continue to do so today.

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religious cult? LOLOLOLOL. i am the most anti religious person i know

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Well many others, including a NY appeals court, disagree with you.

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seriosly, just STFU you have no idea what you are talking about.

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It's not me claiming the expertise. I'm quoting Harvard Medical School, various scientists, The New York Times, and the decisions of US courts.

BTW, your spirited and irrational defense of AA seems awfully similar to that given by someone who's been indoctrinated by a cult. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]