[MoolahMuerte]

With respect to poker - Phil Gordon is a douche. Purporting to be an expert at something (e.g. writing instructional books) and commentating as one when you are clearly just a run of the mill average player is the quintessential definition of being a douche.

As a person, he could be fabulous, and I think talking with him and Richard Brodie about the dot com days and the internet revolution would be fascinating.

In the poker world, however, they are hangers on, groupies, riding the coattails of the real world class players - Ivey, Reese, Brunson, Greenstein - and the others who have popularized the game with their play (DN, Grinder, Lindgren and even Matusow). These are the people who play the real game we love to talk about and study - at the highest levels - with hundreds of thousands, even millions on the line at a time.