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patience grasshopper. Everything you told us shows that you don't have the bankroll to play 20/40 yet. How many big bets do you have in your roll for 20/40? You shouldn't step foot near that game until you have 20k at a very minimum (its a 1/2 kill game, you will often be playing relative stakes of 30/60).

PS: This really isn't a B&M question, this is a general Hold'em topic. It doesn't matter if your playing live or on line variance, win rate, bankroll, and standard deviation issues are the same.

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Agree with your point, but I think it's completely insane to wait until you have 500BB for a game this level when there is a regular game at the level immediately below it to rebuild at. 300BB should be more than sufficient if you are a winning player and I think taking a small shot when you've got 200BB couldn't be all that bad. I'm a nit, so I wouldn't do that, but I'm sure that it wouldn't be bad.

Online I definitely agree, but live it seems nuts to wait till you've got 500 bets.

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I assume you haven't played in this specific game at this casino before... its very juicy but its also very high variance. Your being blinded by the 20/40 limit, think of this game as a 30/60 limit game that sometimes goes down to 20/40 - because it often plays like this.

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When you played the CAZ game, was it a two-in-a-row kill rule? That structure prevents almost all long stretches of kill pots.

I think a player executing a careful shot could do with less risk than you imagine. It is too often overlooked that the probability of certain size downswings decreases dramatically with increases in winrate. And the CAZ 20-40 can breed some very high true winrates.

My hundreds of hours in the game don't make for a huge sample, and I've had a $2k downswing and some smaller ones, but I certainly wouldn't be particularly reluctant to take a shot at the CAZ game.

--Nate