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like i said, use google to find your answer, if you can find an answer you are satisfied with, then please post it here. I'm fairly certain you won't, so it seems pointless to spiral into another "agree to disagree" argument.

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I find this attitude bizarre. You're basically saying that you know that the "answers" are so weak that they won't convince anyone who doesn't want to be convinced. Why then do you (presumably) accept them?

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weak? i'm not sure where i said that. i said "far fetching", but the reason i say that is because a lot of times, in order to understand something in the bible, you must have at least some holistic understanding of the bible. In addition, in order for you guys to accept an answer, it basically has to be up to some standard that I do not think ANY answer (and actually to ANY question) will satisfy. So like i said, if you REALLY want an answer, do your own DD and try to find it yourself. I'll help you if you cant find it, but v's question is such a common question that a simple search in google will yield many answers you can look into. If none of them satisfy you, then why do you need to me rehash what you can already find online to only have you reject it outright? Like i said, waste of all of our time. Find an answer you would like to discuss, and we can discuss. Otherwise lets skip the unnecessary bickering, and just agree to disagree.