[Pat Southern]

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Yeah, I guess an 8 is very rarely in his hand. Not sure why I thought that was bad.

I'm betting the turn here because I have the best hand often and I want to get value from it. You can still make your 5K bet and fold on the turn if you wanted.

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I really dont like betting the turn here. You really shouldnt be worried about giving a free card, and it might let him get away from AQ or JJ. I prefer checking here and trying to get it allin either by calling his turn push, c/ring allin on turn or pushing the river. Btw the river 8 is a very good card considering his range because it makes 88 1/3 as likely.

Soss, I dont like your river line because if he never believes you like you say then you're missing out on value by not pushing when he has TP or even a pair like JJ or TT. And given the odds you're getting on the river you have to be really sure that he has a set or would be capable of putting in so much money PF with a hand like 89s or 87s