[jimitilt]

There are other better books for both. For no limit/pot limit Ciaffone's is better but the Cloutier/ McEvoy book is gerared for tournaments not cash and for Omaha 8 the section in Super System 2 is better than Capaletti's and it is co written by Mark Gregorich who has made his living from mostly Omaha 8 for nearly ten years. The Ray Zee hi lo book also is pretty good for O 8 but I liked the SS2 O8 section better.