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In a career year he wasn't a top ten MVP candidate.

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Most MVP candidates tend to be on teams that make the playoffs. Over the past few years the Jays have failed to field a truly playoff caliber team.
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Lilly is much better than Marcum, Janessen and McGowan and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

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Of course, as it stands now any baseball person with half a brain would take a team of Lilly's over a team of those guys. Lilly also happens to be an 8 year veteran who is accustomed to pitching every five days in the bigs. The three mentioned above, especially McGowan, have limited experience which leaves their futures undetermined. Although I think is the make or break year for McGowan. If he doesn't come through, then JP needs to cut his losses and move on.

You keep saying that 'average pitchers' are hard to come by and are thus very valuable...Is that why Gil Meche got 5 years/55 mil from KC? Because Lilly's career averages are actually worse than Meche's, and Meche got the bigger contract. Or is it because Meche (along with Burnett) are considered to have untapped potential to consistently put up great numbers; after all, they got the same contract.

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Are all Jays fans like this?

Jays will be lucky to finish third again. I love it when a team spends a lot but is really spinning their wheels. It also doesn't help that they have the two best teams in baseball in their division, a team with some of the best young in baseball, and another team finally getting their act together.

Here's a good example of how