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Old 12-09-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: WOW just saw the anti net-neutrality \"mumbo jumbo\" ad

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Meech, you have to understand where PVN is coming from. I doubt he actually cares about NN and I would be surprised if he's in favor of NN. He is arguing with you to advance his larger anti-government agenda. He wants to convince you that A. government is stupid, B. therefore we should get rid of it and C. The best way to do that is Anarcho-Capitalism.

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Eww. While I can certainly understand why most people might write off ACists as wackos, this is the danger. Just because pvn is an ACist doesn't mean his arguments in this thread - about one specific issue - rely on a total removal of government, nor that he's advancing his larger agenda. If this were a thread about farm subsidies, minimum wage, or whatever, or some other isolated issuelike this one, pvn could argue til he was blue in the face why those PARTICULAR issues are counter to economic theory, without necessitating a switch over to full AC. When the thread reaches the point of the basic legitimacy of government, you'll know it, because it will be another "but without the government who would pay for roads???!" rerun.

I also understand what you're doing, trying to identify the players (pvn is AC) for the uninitiated. Especially since when the uninitiated finds out they're arguing with an ACist, what you get is that rerun. But a) I've seen Meech around enough that I think he knows who the major ACists are, and b) you should be careful you don't write off all arguments of any ACist as the radical ramblings of a revolutionary. A lot of it is just basic economics and freedom from people whose uncommon perspective comes from being willing to question the basic assumptions of the status quo.
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