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OK, so here are some things.

As anyone who's met me in person would've known instantly, I was the Villain in this hand. A few of you got that.

Furthermore, I had the nuts; many of you got that. Sadly, 350 was not the raise I actually made. It was the raise I should've made, rather than the raise I did make. What raise did I make, you ask? Just a $1000 raise or so--brilliant. My thinking was, one of these guys has a straight, and it's live poker, so they're too dumb to fold it. Therefore, I'll put them all-in. So anyway, I shoved, and the bettor hemmed and hawed, before folding what was clearly a straight (I'm guessing his hand was T9, since he wasn't brave, and he bet the flop. The donk actually folded a straight-flush draw (64 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]), which mildly surprised me.

I'd seen the donk call a raise from a tight player on a QQT flop, then call 500 into a 150 pot all-in when a 9 hit the turn. His hand: AKo. This influenced me somewhat, and I just shoved, thinking, "He likes his hand enough to call 45, and the other guy just got here but seems pretty dumb as well. Maybe one of them will call." What makes this move so bad is that even if they are dumb enough to call an all-in with the 2nd nuts there, I can get them all-in by making a smaller raise on the turn, and betting the rest on the river (if I even have to). From the way the bettor agonized over folding to the all-in (~1100 to him), I can see that a raise to 350, while oversized, would've been irresistable.

I was hoping this thread would make me feel better, and all of you would go, "Fold obv," but there was enough disagreement that I can see this line would've worked; this bettor was much, much worse than the average MSNL poster.

So, in conclusion, I'm dumb, but at least I'm beautiful. A pic of me is at right. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I don't think what you did was terrible, I've probably only got 30-40 hours of live experience but the play is so terrible that I'm sure you get instacall by a lot of players regardless of how deep you were. But the best way to maximize your winnings in this hand is a raise to 200-300 and then shoving any river (stack sizes will certainly mean they will be committed by calling that size raise).

Interesting hand though, Bobby I think you're very wrong here, and not to be results oriented but against any player with a clue you're usually being freerolled here or up against the nut straight.