[RayBornert]

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You and your bf Ray can cheat all you want.Ill continue to honor my word because unlike you,my word means something to me.Im sure you both have a cheaters forum at which you are welcomed with open arms.Go away and post there,your bs is not flying here. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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dont promise me that you're obeying your site t&c.
your promise means little in a real money game between
strangers over the internet.

prove to me that you're telling the truth.
i bear no burden to trust you simply because you ask me to.

you are tracking, botting, teaming.
you bear the burden to prove that you are not or cannot.

common sense game theory holds that each self-interested
player will avail themselves of the best edge increasing decisions available.

you seem like you're self-interested to me.
nothing wrong with that. but dont lie to me.

you could be nothing more than a shrewd ostrich farmer
telling the herd what you want them to hear. and that
means you're a liar. i don't cooperate with liars.

if you want my cooperation with the t&c
then first prove to me that you are cooperating with the t&c
then we can talk.

i have no reason to trust you and it's kind of an insult
for you to even ask me to trust you when real money is involved.

when real money is involved then i'm gonna need more than
your "good faith" promise dude.

in online holdem,
everyone is guilty of +ev decisions
until somebody can prove that those
decisions are not possible.

ray



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[/ QUOTE ]Little news flash for ya Ray,its irrelevant to me whether you believe that my word is bond.I do not compete honestly to prove my worth to someone else.I do this and try to be a man of my word for myself.Btw,maybe you could quit hiding behind this silly concept in all your responces and speak for yourself as a man,but i suppose it is easier for you to spit lies and rationalize your behavior this way,fair enough.But to leave you on a more positive note,look on the bright side Ray,you at least had one other cheater come to your defence in a week.And the idea he proposed that people that are against cheaters are in a way similar to people who fought against the civil rights movement,is brilliant.It is obvious that this guy is a true friend to your struggle,and his integrity is no doubt on par with yours.

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5th,

i really do want to play at a site where i dont have to
trust anybody - not you, not the operator.

i'm not sure i can say this more clearly.

nothing would make me happier than to see a major las vegas
land casino open their own site that was certified by the
gcb and had a t&c very much like honest holdem.

i would deposit and play there immediately.
(as would many others)

now, seeing as that has not yet occurred,
my only recourse is to continue playing honest
holdem at other sites - this is fine - i dont
care if any of my opponents are tracking, botting
or teaming me - i can deal with that. what bothers
me is that i am forced to trust that the operator
is not colluding with one of my opponents or doing
deck selection.

ray bornert