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You're probably going to have to call at least one bet on fourth, so that 8:1 is a bit of a mirage.

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I do see your point but I'd like to explore this a little further. I think the BI is where good players lose more than they should. I toss razz hands heads up vs agressive aces, but with small pairs with small kickers, I'm much more tempted to play vs late position paint, because my hand is more concealed than his, he might not have a pair, and even if he does, we are heads up giving me a better chance. Do you not take into account the discount on 3rd when deciding to play from the bi?