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If it doesnt get capped I call two small two win 7.5, so
3.75:1 and the odds of flopping a set are 7.43:1 so you need to win another extra 7.5 small bet or 3.75 bb to earn money.
When you do spike a set I would say this is almost a minimum of what you get into the pot... 4 (win) small on the flop, 1 big on the turn and river. which makes it 8...

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The preflop pot isn't quite as big as you think because of the rake.

Sometimes you'll get capped PF which makes your implied odds situation much much worse.

Sometimes you'll lose the pot after flopping a set which will cost so many bets that you need a decent overlay on the set odds.

Guy.

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Sure, but I think a counterbalance to this is the fact that a lot of the time you w ill be up against AK, and AJ, or AJ, AT and equity will be good.