[chezlaw]

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it doesn't matter if the goal isn't to maximise human happiness does it?. Whatever the goal is, it would either justify suffering in its cause or make suffering irrelevent]

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I think that's the same problem - drawing arbitrary distinctions in human action. A world that was 'all good' by this definition would contain no action at all, it'd just be a brain in a vat receiving pleasant electrical impulses.

I 'suffer' a cramped flight to go somewhere I want to go. If I viewed the flight in isolation it'd be bad, if I viewed the trip overall it'd be good. But the flight has no meaning and in fact makes no sense without reference to the destination, even just in terms of language, nevermind experience.

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Its not the flght that should ve viewed in isolation but the suffering. You wouldn't 'suffer' the experience of a cramped flight except in expectation of something that made it worthwhile.

That brain in the vat world would be fairly good just not neccesarily maximally good. We still await DS cantoring along with his proof.

chez