[Xhad]

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You know, Xhad, you keep accusing everyone who disagrees with you in this thread of not handreading and being a "showdown monkey".

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I'm sorry if I gave that impression, but really, I'm more talking about people who go nuts about folds that are even more obvious than this one (stuff like bet/calling AJ UI on the river, or folding QQ against a pf capper when an A flops).

About the actual hand though, if you guys think your club outs are good and that you might have the best hand, give me your ranges. Not the one or two hands you hope they have that make this a breakeven call, but actual ranges of hands that make a call profitable, even taking into account the times you get 3bet drawing dead.