[DrMega]

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I don't really know what you're getting at. I was making a point in response to a poster who advocated raising the turn, but then checking the river, and the poster stated that he believed villain had a weak ace. I was saying that if this was true (i.e. somehow known with 100% certainty), then in these circumstances folding to the turn donk would be the correct play.

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Fair 'nuff.

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Yeah, my point was if you like the turn raise you should definitely be O.K. with betting the river.

IMO, though, there's no reason to play back at him here. OP's read is weak, but it seems to me enough of a read that the turn donk doesn't necessarily mean an ace.

If he's bluffing, popping the turn just gives him a chance to fold, whereas if you just call you can let him fire again and collect another BB. Just calling also gets you to showdown with more certainty and doesn't expose you to getting 3-bet, which is definitely good against a potential maniac.

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I see what you're saying - I always fall into the trap of "he called a bet, so he's probably not that strong - oh crap he called a raise on the turn, now I'm worried" and make a crying call on the river (or check behind).

So rather than spend two bets on the turn to define his hand, spend one bet on the call/check behind line?