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TCU went to NORMAN and won a big game there...OU >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> > Texas A&M.

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OU is better than A&M but winning IN COLLEGE STATION is tough no matter what year and what A&M team is on the field, the good the bad or the great. That is a damn tough place to walk into and win, this is why I said go to their place and beat them...notice I said UT anywhere.

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As it stands, yeah - maybe Tech isn't as good as they've been in years past. At this stage it's hard to tell how much is Tech's offense not being as great and how much is TCU's defense being really good. But why try to take things away from them? They went into Norman last year, beat a top 5 team at their place...the first September loss of Stoops' career at OU and only the second home loss of the Stoops era. That's a big deal...were they as good as they were at the end of the season? No. But neither was TCU (they got WAY better the moment Jeff Ballard took over for Tye Gunn at quarterback).....so what's your point?

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My point? There is a reason that OU went from being a preseason top 5 ranking to slippin all the way down to where TCU is when Bomar was kicked off the team. Bomar is better than any QB at TCU, please don't homer up this thread and think otherwise. By the end of the season OU was a top 10 team in the country (more like 9 or 10) and TCU just wasn't and isn't.

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The Tech game...first time in 6 years they've been held to such few points. Texas's D hasn't held them down like that, nor A&M's, nor Oklahoma's or Colorado's or Nebraska's...maybe they'll prove to be a really bad offense this year and those schools will all have success stopping them just like TCU did. But until they do, why knock down the achievement?

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Why are you so worried about a score, especially when nobody else has even played them this year? This is so weird. TCU won, they are better, do they own the Big XII b/c they beat a downgraded team that was already one dimensional to begin with? No chance. Just so you know, Texas Tech may be the all-time most OVER-RATED team to ever step on a football field.

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We're damned if we do here...if TCFuckinU stops someone or shuts them down -- it MUST be because that team just isn't very good...and even if that team does good things at other times in the season (like OU beating Oregon), it's "well, they weren't very good WHEN they played TCU." This is exactly the disrespect Gary Patterson's talking about and getting sick of...I think rightfully so. I realize I'm a fan and I'm biased. Such is life.

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You're not damned if you do here, well not with me. Just don't beat TT, Baylor, ISU, and squeek by OU while they are at their weakest and most frazzled in nearly a decade and claim that you own the Big XII. That is just weird.

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Baylor...last year was their best since joining the Big 12. I think this season will eclipse that, but I could be dead wrong. I think they're not quite the laughingstock they used to be...that's how I should have put it. They just happen to be the fourth Big 12 team we've beaten over the last two years.

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If they tied their shoes correctly last year it would have been their best year since joining the Big XII, who cares? They are horrendous. When they win a game Waco shuts down and two-steps the night away because they know it doesn't happen too often, that isn't really the sign of a team you should be proud of to beat.

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The point is...TCU never seems to earn any respect. Year after year they drop 15 spots in the rankings just for HAVING an offseason, people continually doubt them and treat them like a second-tier program...when in actuality they are better than most "big conference" programs year in and year out over the last 8 years (since the beginning of the Franchione-Patterson era).

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If anyone has had the right to complain in the past about respect b/c of not being in a "big conference" in accordance to rankings, BCS, bowl games, etc. it is West Virginia and maybe them and/or Louisville this year. TCU came close that one year but didn't they lose to SMU and it ruined their perfect season? This was a few years back, I remember this b/c it was a WV-like season in which there was discussion whether or not if they would get the title game if they had gone undefeated--which they probably wouldn't have been rewarded.

You say they are better than most big conference programs, well yeah some years they are but that isn't saying much considering the worst teams in each conference aren't any good and TCU is, what is the point of this comment? You put TCU in the Big XII and I would say they finish 4th in the Big XII South. You will disagree with this wholeheartedly but there is a big difference in playing one Big XII team a year (maybe 2) and facing a grind every single saturday. I actually wish they would get Baylor the [censored] out of the Big XII and put TCU in there to beef it up, b/c in my eyes the Big XII isn't as strong as many of the other conferences.