[grandgnu]

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He could have been trying to check raise the flop, or, the turn card could have given him a bunch of different hands. I wouldn't focus too much on the fact that he didn't bet until the 7 fell.


maybe it could be said like this "how often, regardless of the way a hand is played, is fourth pair alone good enough to win a HU pot in O8"

that's why i gave the reasoning for this being a long term -EV situation.

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Thanks for your take on the situation. He might've been waiting to check-raise the flop, but he didn't seem like the check-raising type, from what I had seen of his play (i.e. I'd expect him to bet that flop with a wrap draw or whatever)

Also, I wasn't expecting my pair to hold up on the river. I felt it might be good. That's why I raised instead of just called. I figured he'd lay down a pair of Jacks and maybe even Queens, so if I was beat, but he wasn't very strong, I could still win the pot.