[cartman]

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I felt at the time that with the station protecting the pot I put myself into an icky position when MP bets and Button calls, because MP will still make retarded bluffs and station will still call with a wide range, but I'm not sure that my hand good nearly as often when it goes check-bet-call

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I think you may be mixing apples and oranges here. Given that neither of them fold, your hand will be good more often if it you check and it goes bet-call and if you bet and it goes call-call. The reason is that the first scenario includes bluffs by MP. You may feel better about betting, but that is just because at the time that you bet you won't yet know whether MP will call.

I don't hate your bet because I think it is likely enough that MP would have spoken up by now if he had a hand better than yours. But if he is likely to bluff if you check, then in my opinion you should give him the chance and not feel any worse about calling them both than you would have about betting.

I think the important thing to realize is that neither of them is folding a better hand than yours anyway so, if you don't have the winner when you overcall the river, you wouldn't have had the winner if you bet either.

Are you confused yet? I know I am [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Cartman