WARNING LONG POST
I dont wanna spam the forums with tons of newbie questions/hands so it's all in one big post.
So tonight i tried out PLO for the first time and it didnt go so well... down 8 buyins in 280 hands [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. I didn't really know what i was doing and was too loose preflop and probably overvalued a bunch of hands and draws.
Anyone have any preflop suggestions on starting hands? Search kinda sucks. Should it pretty much be raise or fold? I do that for NLHE but preflop raises and c-bets didn't seem to be working as well in this game.
And here's a bunch of hands, please berate me:
#1
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $3.90
UTG+1: $29.75
CO: $18.05
Button: $31.15
Hero: $39.75
BB: $10.50
Pre-flop: (
6 players) Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.
Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (
$4.25, 5 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG calls all-in $3.05</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $19.3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $38.9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $11</font>.
Uncalled bets: $8.6 returned to Hero.
<font color="blue"> standard? </font>
Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (
$67.9, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $13.4, Sidepot 1: $54.5)
River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (
$67.9, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $13.4, Sidepot 1: $54.5)
Results:
Final pot: $67.9
#2
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
Hero: $28.20
UTG+1: $20.25
CO: $12.15
Button: $20.55
SB: $64.80
BB: $141.10
Pre-flop: (
6 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $1.5</font>, BB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.
<font color="blue"> raise or fold preflop? </font>
Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (
$6.25, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $3.1</font>, Hero calls,
2 folds.
Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (
$12.45, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $33.45</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $16.6</font>.
Uncalled bets: $9.85 returned to SB.
<font color="blue"> im probably dead here but i couldnt resist the pot odds... </font>
River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (
$59.65, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $59.65)
Results:
Final pot: $59.65
#3
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.40
UTG+1: $93
CO: $175.40
Hero: $27.55
SB: $30.35
BB: $7
Pre-flop: (
6 players) Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB checks.
Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (
$0.85, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $0.85</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.4</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.
<font color="blue"> standard raise? </font>
Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (
$7.65, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG+1 calls.
River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (
$21.65, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $16.9</font>, UTG+1 calls.
<font color="blue"> value bet? i thought i may get value off of 78 and would probably have heard from a set earier (but it is .10/.25 so who knows wtf they would do) </font>
Results:
Final pot: $55.45
#4
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $32.45
Hero: $175.4
Hero: $34.55
Button: $15.25
SB: $35.25
BB: $25
Pre-flop: (
5 players) Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.
Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (
$1.25, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.25</font>,
3 folds, UTG calls.
Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (
$3.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3.75</font>, UTG calls.
River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (
$11.25, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $19.6</font>, Hero calls.
<font color="blue"> fold to the c/r? </font>
Results:
Final pot: $50.45
#5
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $17.10
UTG+1: $25
CO: $25
Button: $139.90
Hero: $23.90
BB: $25.50
Pre-flop: (
6 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $0.8</font>, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.
Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (
$3.45, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $11.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $23.1</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls.
<font color="blue"> standard? </font>
Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (
$52.65, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $52.65)
#6
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $21.65
UTG+1: $48.45
CO: $141.10
Hero: $27.95
SB: $25.75
BB: $13.35
Pre-flop: (
6 players) Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.1</font>, SB calls, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4.9</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.
Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (
$14.95, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.
Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (
$14.95, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.
River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (
$14.95, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $10.5</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.
Results:
Final pot: $35.95
Results:
Final pot: $52.65
#7
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
4 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG+1: $48.45
CO: $141.1
Hero: $48.45
Button: $10
SB: $21.15
BB: $17.25
Pre-flop: (
4 players) Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.95</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.
<font color="blue"> pair, doublesuited, 2 connected cards... raise? </font>
Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (
$3.1, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $8.95</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.
<font color="blue"> he's short so i gotta call and pair+flush draw = nuts just like in holdem right? </font>
Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (
$21, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $21)
River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (
$21, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $21)
Results:
Final pot: $21
#9
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.65
CO: $110.65
CO: $141.1
Hero: $45.40
SB: $11.35
BB: $20
Pre-flop: (
5 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.
<font color="blue"> raise preflop? </font>
Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (
$1, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1</font>,
2 folds, CO calls.
Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (
$3, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, CO calls.
<font color="blue"> check behind? </font>
River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (
$9, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, CO calls.
<font color="blue"> value bet? villain was the only one that seemed like he actually knew how to play omaha</font>
Results:
Final pot: $17