[five4suited]

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I raise the flop. IMO MP's ludicrous aggression factor means we could easily be facing middle pair, we want UTG to fold, and the pot is already large. If UTG 3-bets or cold calls we're unhappy (fold to 3-bet, most likely fold turn UI), but if he folds we've isolated aggro guy.

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The problem is that UTG is 13/9/3.09/605 and raised preflop, then called 2 cold back to him when it was capped. His call isn't saying "Well, im already in the pot for 2 bets so why not toss in 2 more", but rather, "I have a premium hand that is worth putting in 4 bets PF".

Another problem is that the strength of his hand is pretty vague. MP1's hand strength is pretty clear since he 3bet a raiser, and hero's is even more defined since he coldcapped. But MP1 mearly raised preflop and then called a cap. We know he is strong, but just not how strong.

Also, I think my position relative to the other 2 villans sucks. It may, in fact, be the worst case scenario position-wise since I am pinned between a LAG and a tight, overly aggressive player. If MP1 had any sort of hand, he would likely c/r the flop given the preflop action and his aggression factor. This was the main factor that crossed my mind when considering what my action should be...

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I didn't pay as much attention to UTG as I should have... to this point I think he's stronger than MP. you're right on about MP imo, his flop donk screams weakness. ok, maybe he doesn't have 66 but he still isn't better than 99 or TT.

still, i like my position here because UTG is so aggressive. he's not all that tricky. as you said, MP thinks he's slick, but we can deal with him later. if UTG does anything other than fold, our interest in this hand has ended, but he can and will find a fold here. MP will fold to our raise or turn bet and we take it down. if we get coldcalled by utg, then we proceed verrrry carefully. it all depends on what card falls next.

another poster half-jokingly said that he doesn't want to fold and calling sucks, so you raise and lose more later. well, I feel the same way (minus the losing more part [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]). I can't find a fold yet and calling is terrible.

reverse domination is a bigger concern to me than mp's hand range. if UTG cold calls at worst he has AK i think. even if we do improve on the turn one of our opponents holding AA, KK, QQ, AK or AQ seems to be a distinct possibility. we're not up against <=JJ for both villains here all that often. still... i can't fold the flop. I can imagine circumstances where cap/fold would be the line, but not here. UTG's ability to fold and the size of the pot are key here I think.