[Rottersod]

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This is almost a common situation. With sutble variances. Friday nite it happened when I was delaing 15-30 at Bellagio, however the bettor turned her hand up after she had been raised on the river. She showed her ace high face up. This is often a visual show and "give up". I mucked her hand with a quick pause and aloud "xxxx, your mucking right?"

The raiser asked to be sure, but it was an obvious situation and we naturally had no problems with it.

In the ops hand from above however, this hand had several opportunities to "fix" it. First we must also understand that UTG is responsible for acting on thier own hand and knowing what the actions are to them as well. However, there were opportunities even after the hand had been mucked for this dealer to simply ask the player if they wanted to call the river raise. JUST ASK!! Point out the raise and ask!! The fact that the hand was mucked by the dealer means nothing. Cards speak, and as such had UTG called then we could have a showdown even tho UTG's cards are mucked, they were exposed.

It's obvious this dealer has never been properly trained. Just because it's Mirage doesnt mean they have. With the state of influx of new dealers and new rooms taking a certain amount of experienced dealers looking for greener grass, we must expect a fair amount of the dealers today will not understand poker as well as the players. I'm not suggesting this situation is ok. It just "is". We need to be aware of this as players and try to protect the game a little bit more.

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Good points but the one thing I disagree with is that the dealer shouldn't ask the players anything. The dealer should say something like "there's a raise to you". IOW, something neutral. The problem with asking is that it can involve inflections and bad players may pick up on something and call down a bluff. Dealers should always act neutral.