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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-18-2006, 08:37 AM
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Posted By DougShrapnel
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Interesting. Agreed. Though it might become more rational after we nuke everything and lose all our knowledge! Seriously, I am very concerned that we will kill ourselves off within my...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-18-2006, 07:56 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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Hey MIdGe, been a long time. Hope you are doing well. The huge inflated ego isn't regulated to only the religious.

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Heya Doug,

Quite right! But it seems...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-18-2006, 07:38 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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It may be human nature, but it's not rational. Given how much we've learned and the fact that we keep filling in those gaps with more and more knowledge should give one considerable doubt...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-17-2006, 02:21 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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Iron, if we can both agree that the religious aren't being irrational regarding thier religion, it gives us a starting point. The starting point is so very important. Well yes it's, IME, a...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-17-2006, 01:35 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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Dude, the only people that filled in gaps were those who created religion. Modern Christians believe what they believe because they were TOLD those pieces of info. They didn't fill in...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-17-2006, 01:33 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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Your application of the linked study suffers from a basic misunderstanding. Reason is not the mechanism which creates these images. It is the means by which one is able to recogize that...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-17-2006, 01:28 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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I'm saying that religion is incorrect, but the belief in a God that controls the unknowns was and is to a certain extent a rational belief to hold. Not becuase of it's...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-17-2006, 01:25 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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Most theists don't just have a vague feeling that something must be responsible for the universe. It's way more than the mind filling in the blanks. It is irrationality caused...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-17-2006, 01:23 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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I'm saying that religion is incorrect, but the belief in a God that controls the unknowns was and is to a certain extent a rational belief to hold. Not becuase of it's...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-11-2006, 12:37 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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"The main two things that are left are the creation (cause of creation) of the universe, and the emergence (cause of emergence) of life. I implore you to not go down the same road that is...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-11-2006, 12:24 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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Where the retina connects to the optic nerve, the mind forces itself to fill in the details of the missing information. Don't believe me look here....
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-11-2006, 12:10 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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I don't think your example supports your argument as much as you'd like. The brain doesn't fill in as much as it just ignores what it doesn't know. In this view, religion is still...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-11-2006, 12:04 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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I agree with that, but I also think very few people see religion in that light.

[/ QUOTE ]I would like for more people to view religion in that light. Especially those that are, but...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-11-2006, 12:03 AM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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what do you do when your brian tells you the world is spinning? If you are like me you lay down until it stops. Soon your mind stop telling you it's spinning and everything is...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-10-2006, 11:59 PM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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Yes, but that's what is so amazing about the mind. It's part of imagination. Religion restricts that tendency, the abililty of the mind to create awesome music out of virtually nothing,...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-10-2006, 11:45 PM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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I dont know about that. I can spin around in circles for a while and my brain is telling me the world is spinning. But I don't go screaming out of my house to alert the authorities. I try...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-10-2006, 11:40 PM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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That's not true - we have plenty of choice. It is limited in many ways, but we certainly have it. At bare minimum we can take the position of bunny, who has no "choice" but to believe in...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-10-2006, 11:33 PM
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Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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You're not arguing that religion is rational, you're arguing it's in the human nature. I agree with you. But that doesn't make it rational. What you "fill in" with regard to vision, or...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-10-2006, 11:24 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
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Did you post this when drunk? Not really because of the content, but this is like an insane number of typos for you.

[/ QUOTE ]Yes. Sorry I'll try to edit. I'm also much worse than...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 12-10-2006, 11:10 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 181
Posted By DougShrapnel
Religion A perfectly rational belief

Where the retina connects to the optic nerve, the mind forces itself to fill in the details of the missing information. Don't believe me look here. (http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/blindspot1.html)...
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