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Forum: Politics 06-22-2007, 09:41 AM
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Posted By John Kilduff
Re: The difference between being coerced and coercing

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You're now advocating the initiation of violence on the basis of a perceived threat, rather than in response to actual violence. That rather changes the equation, since government can be...
Forum: Politics 06-22-2007, 09:19 AM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
Posted By John Kilduff
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"Exactly when is it morally acceptable, in your view, to preemptively initiate force against another human being?"

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My answer would be when you ACCURATELY perceive what...
Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 10:03 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
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I'd just shoot the f*cking dog and not worry about it... but then again, I don't claim it has some "right"...
Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 09:16 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
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I'd just shoot the f*cking dog and not worry about it... but then again, I don't claim it has some "right" against my not initiating...
Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 09:11 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
Posted By John Kilduff
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I'd just shoot the f*cking dog and not worry about it... but then again, I don't claim it has some "right" against my not initiating force...
Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 08:57 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
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I'd just shoot the f*cking dog and not worry about it... but then again, I don't claim it has some "right" against my not initiating force against it.
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Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 08:14 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
Posted By John Kilduff
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I'd just shoot the f*cking dog and not worry about it... but then again, I don't claim it has some "right" against my not initiating force against it.

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Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 08:10 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
Posted By John Kilduff
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I'd just shoot the f*cking dog and not worry about it... but then again, I don't claim it has some "right" against my not initiating force against it.

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You didn't...
Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 07:07 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
Posted By John Kilduff
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This is going in circles. Enforcement of assault laws are self-defense. Is it coercive of me to shoot you when you are...
Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 06:01 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
Posted By John Kilduff
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This is going in circles. Enforcement of assault laws are self-defense. Is it coercive of me to shoot you when you are trying to kill me? ...
Forum: Politics 06-21-2007, 05:48 PM
Replies: 195
Views: 747
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This is going in circles. Enforcement of assault laws are self-defense. Is it coercive of me to shoot you when you are trying to kill me? Maybe, but who cares? I...
Forum: Politics 06-20-2007, 10:49 AM
Replies: 195
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Posted By John Kilduff
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At what point is his motivation clear enough that it's okay to preemptively attack him?


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