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Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 06:12 PM
Replies: 204
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Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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Approach 1: if it's inconsistent, it can't be a right by definition, and therefore "there is no right to sustenance".


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I think before we continue I'm going to have to...
Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 06:03 PM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
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Why? What separates the widely held value judgment of "children need a minimal amount of skills to have a chance to succeed" from "people own their own labor", and...
Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 03:33 PM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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Why? What separates the widely held value judgment of "children need a minimal amount of skills to have a chance to succeed" from "people own their own labor", and why should I put more...
Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 03:18 PM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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The same way that a 'right to property' is derived. You say 'right to property', I say (for example) 'right to liberty', or 'right of basic sustenance', or 'right to a ninth grade...
Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 11:54 AM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
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Socialists really just have to answer one question. If the main purpose of governments is to help the poor, ........

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Well that ISN'T the main purpose of govt...
Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 11:38 AM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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It seems to me like those kinds of arguments assume that someone who does not own any land in a society with property rights is somehow being disenfranchised, and the implication seems to...
Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 09:15 AM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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I would say this is probably my favorite post out of all I've written, no responses at all? I think it might make a good OP if I changed it a little bit.


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ACtually I...
Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 09:10 AM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
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I've got a better explanation. People feel like they are evil if they arent helping the poor so they offload the responsibility to a third party to deal with their anxiety,...
Forum: Politics 11-28-2007, 08:57 AM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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This is like saying guns are bad because they kill people. Government has it's uses, that's what I'm saying. You seem to imply that "educated and non-violent populace" is some sort of...
Forum: Politics 11-27-2007, 11:31 PM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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This is actually not the contradiction you make it out to be. Part of the reason that governments work is that they create a social contract, whereby everyone is forced to provide their...
Forum: Politics 11-27-2007, 10:57 PM
Replies: 154
Views: 1,657
Posted By ianlippert
Re: A Critique of Rothbardian Natural Rights (sorta long)

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Of course Democracy alone isn't going to work miracles. No system of government or lack of government will. To be a good form of government it merely needs to be good in comparison to the...
Forum: Politics 11-27-2007, 11:05 AM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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Humans are selfish by nature (not completely, but mostly). In that sense, an organized body with the right authority is needed to help distribute resources, reduce separation between...
Forum: Politics 11-27-2007, 10:58 AM
Replies: 154
Views: 1,657
Posted By ianlippert
Re: A Critique of Rothbardian Natural Rights (sorta long)

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its not ridiculous if you understand the principled difference we're focusing on is a government of voluntary arrangement and one that is coercive. You really believe the American...
Forum: Politics 11-26-2007, 09:21 PM
Replies: 204
Views: 1,759
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

First question, do you think the majority of Americans care about poor people?

Second question, if the American government is needed to help poor people why doesnt it eliminate poverty? It has...
Forum: Politics 11-23-2007, 01:42 PM
Replies: 154
Views: 1,657
Posted By ianlippert
Re: A Critique of Rothbardian Natural Rights (sorta long)

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Well mabey you could provide a positive theory of property rights.

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http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Property/Property.html

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Forum: Politics 11-23-2007, 01:11 PM
Replies: 154
Views: 1,657
Posted By ianlippert
Re: A Critique of Rothbardian Natural Rights (sorta long)

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Why do I need to provide some theory of private property rights. Im pretty satisfied with how it works now.

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So your theory of property rights is that some people have...
Forum: Politics 11-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Replies: 154
Views: 1,657
Posted By ianlippert
Re: A Critique of Rothbardian Natural Rights (sorta long)

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But "statists" entire belief system, at least in the political sense, isnt based on an a concept of absolute, inviolable property rights. Anarchists/libertarians do believe in that. Get...
Forum: Politics 11-23-2007, 12:43 PM
Replies: 154
Views: 1,657
Posted By ianlippert
Re: A Critique of Rothbardian Natural Rights (sorta long)

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Shooting a gun at someone is a violent act. Flying a plane over someone's land isn't.

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What if it's a helicopter, meant to intimidate the owner into selling...
Forum: Politics 11-23-2007, 12:36 PM
Replies: 154
Views: 1,657
Posted By ianlippert
Re: A Critique of Rothbardian Natural Rights (sorta long)

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But that's not his point. His point is that if you take a natural rights approach there is no dividing line between the two cases. To take his aeroplane example: no one here seriously...
Forum: Politics 11-23-2007, 12:31 PM
Replies: 154
Views: 1,657
Posted By ianlippert
Re: A Critique of Rothbardian Natural Rights (sorta long)

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This is just a string of ridiculous, nonsense, pointless, grey area null zone scenarios designed to hurt the cause of freedom. Why does anyone anywhere care about the possibility of a...
Forum: Politics 11-17-2007, 08:35 AM
Replies: 141
Views: 1,151
Posted By ianlippert
Re: borodog\'s mistaken understanding of M3...don\'t listen to his drive

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this is definitely a discussion we can have. arguably, for those that consume in US dollars, a weaker currency does little to alter their standard of living.

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Forum: Politics 11-16-2007, 10:28 PM
Replies: 197
Views: 1,008
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Liberty Dollar office raided

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Why are people jumping to conclusions about the reasons behind this raid when it does not seem to be clear? Federal agents have claimed that the money and properties seized in the raid...
Forum: Politics 11-16-2007, 10:24 PM
Replies: 197
Views: 1,008
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Liberty Dollar office raided

Boro, did you become a libertarian before or after you took your job as a publicly funded teacher? Shouldnt you have quit your job the instant you realised your paycheck was funded by coercion? You...
Forum: Politics 11-16-2007, 02:52 PM
Replies: 128
Views: 623
Posted By ianlippert
Re: Moral relativity

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I agree with you on a general level, but I do feel that there are cases of justified killing (even "murder" so to speak, cases which fall outside the scope of...
Forum: Politics 11-16-2007, 02:44 PM
Replies: 141
Views: 1,151
Posted By ianlippert
Re: borodog\'s mistaken understanding of M3...don\'t listen to his drive

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those who don't understand econ (many who read and have been converted) take it as such a literal relationship.


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Oh no somebody doesnt understand econ?!?!?!?

Some...
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