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Forum: Health and Fitness 05-08-2007, 03:30 AM
Replies: 77
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Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

Skunk,

Interesting. Too bad, I was looking forward to donuts and milk instead of sweetarts and choc milk. Too bad.
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-08-2007, 02:35 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

skunk,

I wouldn't either, but I was curious how much of a synergy there was or if there becomes a point of diminishing returns... Of the cuff it seems that foods like donuts etc which are high in...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-08-2007, 01:41 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

skunk,

Very interesting. If I'm not mistaken, the "badness" of saturated fats doesn't make up for the increased IR over something like dextrose, no?
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 11:16 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

guids,

Highly correlated, but not always. Some foods have a lower GI but a much higher IR. Candy Bars come to mind in this. Diabetes FTW.
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 10:58 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

I'm talking about Insulin Response, its a different measurement from glycemic index. Almost the exact same but some slight differences.

I do understand exactly what you are saying though. Just...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 10:44 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

guids,

Actually IR works a little better than GI, since there are some factors (which are beyond me to currently understand) that causes the two to be highly correlated but unequal.
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 08:50 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

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if you don't have any science behind your claims.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is your whole problem. Somehow the pseudo science you provide is a cut above. Did you read the BB.com thread you...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

Jah7,

Lets start out with some facts:

1) Fast acting carbs and whey PWO will move your from a catabolic to an anabolic state. Insulin plays a very large role in this.
2) WMS has no real...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 06:43 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

Jetboy,

You pre/post workout should be almost identical for all 4 of those people. Only difference would be in total cals consumed to adjust for size and overall caloric consumption.
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 05:29 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

jah7,

Please rejoin the anabolic properties of insulin, the uptake of muscle glycogen with a high IR card PWO, and you're ridiculous claim of fat gain.

On the WMS topic, until someone can...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 01:13 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

Do you even read the drivel you "cite"? You cited one article twice in that list of ten and it was the same one you cited above. Many of those studies also cover liver glycogen in endurance athletes,...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-07-2007, 06:40 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

jah,

It doesn't really matter how many articles you link to or anecdotal evidence you produce to the contrary for something that is ingrained in fact. Insulin is highly anabolic and you want it...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-06-2007, 05:34 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

guids,

I've heard the same stuff about PWO carbs and pre workout not affecting people like a bowl of oatmeal in the morning. I think you might be a sound example of someone who responds...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-06-2007, 05:23 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

tdarko,

Simple sugars are a must in any diet with anyone who is weight training. Its not really debatable either. Complex carbs PWO (and pre) are inferior to dextrose.

guids,

I think there...
Forum: Health and Fitness 05-06-2007, 04:01 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 267
Posted By Thremp
Re: Atkins Diet - Lets Discuss Pros/Cons/Experiences

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One big problem with Atkins: very, very difficult to have high-quality workouts due to low carbohydrate intake. Performance suffers across the board, and glycogen stores are exhausted...
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