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Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-19-2007, 03:22 AM

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Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

What makes something useful or useless?

You or the consumer?

Are you the czar of what is useless and what is not useless?

I would argue it is market driven.

A large number of people would...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-19-2007, 02:28 AM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

Gisborne,

There will always be skill differences between the players. Take away the top 10 players, and now the next 10 are the "Top 10". Making all the pro's vanish will just reduce the overall #...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 08:43 PM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Being told \"professional poker doesn\'t contribute to society.\"

Taxes don't contribute to society?
LMAO.

Can't think of something that is more fundamentally designed to promote society as a whole.

There clearly is a demand for poker competition.
What does...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 12:13 PM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Being told \"professional poker doesn\'t contribute to society.\"

Gambling is legal in almost every state.

Lotteries, horse racing, church bingo.
It's illegal if those in power don't get the money.

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 01:29 AM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Being told \"professional poker doesn\'t contribute to society.\"

The competition is paying the online player.
The online player earns far less than Tiger Woods.

The competition chooses to play the online player.
Some people railbird and derive entertainment....

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 01:19 AM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Being told \"professional poker doesn\'t contribute to society.\"

You know better than the market Dima?

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 01:18 AM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Being told \"professional poker doesn\'t contribute to society.\"

No one is forced to play anywhere.

I am still confused by the distinction between sports and poker.

Exactly what is Tiger Woods contributing by being able to play 18 holes of golf better than...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 01:11 AM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

Market place determines demand... not some dudes arguing on the net.

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 12:54 AM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

Dima,

It's the market that sets demand.

It would be easy to argue that Basketball player contribute nothing but people and corporations foot the bill.

Losing players for the most part...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 12:49 AM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

Not a zero sum game.
Provides entertainment for many.
An opportunity to make money for others.

Why is there a distinction between poker players and athletes, actors/artists?

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-18-2007, 12:36 AM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

Dima,

Players choose the stakes they play at.
Anybody if they wish can play poker for free at many sites if they choose too.

If you want to compete at a certain level, you need to have the...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-17-2007, 11:39 PM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

Dima,

The average joe would prefer to skip the game altogether and just get paid.

Players have many choices when playing poker.
Game selection is a pretty big component of winning. Have read...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-17-2007, 11:22 PM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

People want to play against someone who will pay them if they win.

Guarantee you Roddick would prefer to play Raymer than Federer.

Entertainment, even art, is largely made legitimate by one...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-17-2007, 11:05 PM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Does professional poker contribute to society?

Online poker players provide competition/entertainment for their opponents.

Their opponents are willing to pay for the competition.

Very honest form of income.

Better player usually gets the...

Forum: News, Views, and Gossip

10-17-2007, 08:40 PM

Replies: 288

Poll: Being told "professional poker doesn't contribute to society."

Views: 3,036

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: Being told \"professional poker doesn\'t contribute to society.\"

What do actors or actresses contribute?

When Demi Moore got paid $20,000,000 to pretend she would spread her legs for $1,000,000 who did that really help?

Poker pros offer the public...

Forum: High Stakes

03-15-2007, 01:21 AM

Replies: 62

when giving free cards is better than betting vulnerable hands

Views: 247

Posted By Jack Ruby

Re: when giving free cards is better than betting vulnerable hands

Seems like a simple ratio:

6 QJ Kill Action
10 Cards create Boat/Quads Saving money.

Reading the guy down to only two hands sounds like [censored]. If you can read the game that well, it...

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