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Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 10:55 PM
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

BTW, I'm off for good this time, for about a week or so, so don't anyone get to excited if I'm not around to answer your questions of me. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Happy and safe Turkey Day to...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 10:47 PM
Replies: 556
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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Bonds took steroids -- or was given steroids -- that is either true or ..

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Or false. It's either true or false.

And we'll see if the gubment can prove their allegations...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 10:43 PM
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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I hope when this is done, he [censored] some people up like what happened with mike nifong.

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And the winner of the worst analogy award...

This case is so far...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 10:32 PM
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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It is likely that Greg Anderson can't be prosecuted because his testimony under oath was prior to his guilty plea. The guilty plea likely incorporated all charges and possible charges...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 10:18 PM
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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I think there is honestly very little difference in most peoples minds between a conviction and an acquittal. I think there is pretty much a 0% chance that we will be inundated with...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 08:56 PM
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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A failure to indict here would have been EXTREMELY public and loud. Deafening, even.

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Do you think an acquittal has the same effect, or does the angry mob just ignore it...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 07:52 PM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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LOL I totally forgot about Palmeiro.

No reason to indict him though right?

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According to the same AG that found reason to spend 4+ years investigating Bonds....there...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 07:45 PM
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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How long have you spent in a U.S. Attorney's Office?

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How much time have you spent in an MLB dugout?
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 07:36 PM
Replies: 556
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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I also have some personal knowledge on how a U.S. Attorney's office works and what it takes to get the approval to bring a high profile indictment -- so that gives me some added comfort...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 07:25 PM
Replies: 556
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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You don't think it has anything to do with them fearing egg on their face without even an indictment after 4+ years of investigations?

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That is one of the...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Replies: 556
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

This just in:

Mark McDougal, the curator at the Pirates Hall of Fame, said during an interview with a local station that at the request of the Bond's defense team, he has sent a 1991 game-worn...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 07:08 PM
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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RedBean,
I think it is very likely Bonds said no more than any other word in the indictment.

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Which is ironic considering the prominent myth 2 years ago courtesy of the...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 06:59 PM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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Game of Shadows by itself is overwhelming unless you read it with an overskeptical pro-Bonds bias (like those who believe OJ didn't commit the murders).


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The Pulitzer...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 06:54 PM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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He tried to avoid saying no many times. Eventually he does say no, but he does what he can to avoid answers. That is what I get from reading the testimony.


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He said...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 06:48 PM
Replies: 556
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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Ever consider that Bonds did tell the truth, and it certainly didn't end there?

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I did. And I dismissed it as nearly impossible. The evidence is...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 03:53 PM
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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um he may have told the truth ....

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the way he answered the questions, it is highly unlikely... although the prosecutors may not be able to prove he lied...
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Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 03:52 PM
Replies: 556
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Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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That's true. He avoids answering the question of whether the thinks BB took steroids. It's all a media/government conspiracy.

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Actually, I avoid answering the question...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 03:49 PM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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BINGO! As could be expected, RedBean completely misrepresents the situation. This was no trap to put Bonds in jail.

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Maybe I didn't explain it well.....but the trap...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 03:44 PM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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that obviously wasn't the part I was talking about, but it doesn't surprise me you would argue against something that isn't the point being made

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I know it wasn't the part...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 05:47 AM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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if someone could get a transcript from the last Rome is Burning, Jim Rome actually had good insight on the topic today in regards to people's opinions

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I saw the where...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 03:42 AM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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RB, it is Will Leitch, not Will Carroll.

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Meh, they're both named Will, and one of them used to be a women or something....right?

Easy to mistake...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-17-2007, 03:42 AM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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If Bonds had not been granted immunity, he would have had the right to remain silent. With immunity, he could have refused to answer and been held in contempt. By answering and...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-16-2007, 07:03 PM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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RB, it is Will Leitch, not Will Carroll.

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Meh, they're both named Will, and one of them used to be a women or something....right?

Easy to mistake them.
Forum: Sporting Events 11-16-2007, 07:02 PM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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In your first quoted section, the allegation is that Bonds tested positive in Nov 2000. In your second quoted section, he posted "abnormally high" in Nov 2001. Is this not new information?...
Forum: Sporting Events 11-16-2007, 06:50 PM
Replies: 556
Views: 3,493
Posted By RedBean
Re: Barry Bonds indicted

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How did they "obstruct justice"?

When they refused to name their source, they were in contempt and could have been locked up; but then their source came forward and they could no...
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