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09-07-2007, 04:22 PM
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And btw, I would appreciate an apology for your claim that I switched the claims I was making, or substantiation that I did.
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09-07-2007, 04:11 PM
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The claims were that existing exams are not good predictors no matter where you attended school, and that it is impossible to design more effective ones. Both claims are...
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09-07-2007, 03:22 PM
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If there were easier strategies to pass them than actually learning the material because of a problem inherent to standardized tests, there would be huge financial gain from...
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09-07-2007, 02:54 PM
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And btw, I would appreciate an apology for your claim that I switched the claims I was making, or substantiation that I did. Somehow youve managed to avoid that part of my post. surprise surprse...
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09-07-2007, 02:51 PM
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Copernicus is also ignoring that the actuarial test, even if it was standardized, is not given across such a large population as the ACT or SAT is. As I showed earlier, this would make it...
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09-07-2007, 02:44 PM
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Interesting that you should raise actuaries though. Actuaries take a series of ten standardized tests.
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I am an actuary which is why I picked that profession....
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09-07-2007, 11:02 AM
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Say, for example, their child shows a gift / interest in maths. How do they know which school has the best maths department?
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If a person graduating from...
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09-07-2007, 10:43 AM
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This is the crap that ETS and the College Board and GMAC use to sell their illegitamate tests. Correlation =/= causation. <font color="red"> Strawman. You don't understand the...
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09-07-2007, 03:12 AM
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SATs are still the second highest predictor of college success, not signficantly lower than high school GPA, when measuring freshman grades. ACT scores are a very signficant...
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09-07-2007, 02:17 AM
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Whether SATs are or aren't objective, and how close they are to being objective, designing objective tests obviously can be done. Until then SATs and other standardized tests...
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09-07-2007, 01:46 AM
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Some less obvious examples...the savings in number of police needed on the streets during school hours, reduced crime rates overall
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09-06-2007, 12:34 PM
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Despite claims of "social biases" in testing, its not exactly rocket science. The study above focuses on 4th and 8th grade scores, SAT scores are a good substitute at the 11th...
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09-06-2007, 12:32 PM
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Some less obvious examples...the savings in number of police needed on the streets during school hours, reduced crime rates overall
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We...
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09-05-2007, 05:53 PM
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If the number of children being schooled went from 100% to 93% would the number of educated people be higher or lower?
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This is an ill posed question....
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09-05-2007, 05:51 PM
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This is an ill posed question. If the 100% are government schooled and the 93% are privately schooled, the number of educated students and the quality of their educations would...
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09-05-2007, 03:02 PM
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Some less obvious examples...the savings in number of police needed on the streets during school hours, reduced crime rates overall
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We could accomplish the same...
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09-05-2007, 12:24 PM
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How many Americans do you think are without basic schooling today? Or do you think that having a law on the books somehow magically equates to people actually learning stuff? Millions of...
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09-05-2007, 11:42 AM
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I thought I'd add this nice tidbit, taken from a book I recently read: In 1821, *long* before public schools were created, 93% of all NYC children were enrolled in private...
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09-05-2007, 11:39 AM
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I thought I'd add this nice tidbit, taken from a book I recently read: In 1821, *long* before public schools were created, 93% of all NYC children were enrolled in...
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09-05-2007, 11:35 AM
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There is still no recognition of the two glaring fundamental issues surrounding the alledged benefits of private education. There is no, none, zip-i-de-doo-dah evidence that private education is...
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08-29-2007, 05:35 AM
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The desire for food is a basic need that everyone understands, there is no need for the gov. to pass laws making eating compulsory. Education is different, it's almost as vital...
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08-29-2007, 12:23 AM
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In a world of privatly owned schools there will always be some cost to the parent, right?
What happens to the kids of the junky/breadline/neglectful/lazy parent...
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08-25-2007, 01:00 PM
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Incorrect. Yes, the religous schools (that rely on charity) are the cheapest. However, there are a lot of schools out there that charge lower tuition then property taxes and operate...
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08-25-2007, 01:26 AM
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Private schools often operate for less then you pay in property or other taxes to attend school. Not only would poor kids be able to go to school, it would cost less.
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08-24-2007, 05:38 PM
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the main purpose of public education is to give every child the opportunity to get an education. The system often fails but in my opinion it is better thant no trying.
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