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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-30-2007, 02:56 PM
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Posted By pvn
Re: For moral relativists

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You seem to be saying that people shouldn't do what they think they should do, and instead do what you think they should do.

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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-30-2007, 02:52 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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This is totally moving goal posts. I don't have to move into an existing barber shop to compete with an established barber.

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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-30-2007, 02:48 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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You seem to be saying that people shouldn't do what they think they should do, and instead do what you think they should do.

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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-29-2007, 11:26 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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off topic reply so I don't want this to derail the thread, but why would you want to have your life and the rules you live by defined...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-29-2007, 11:24 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
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What if it's voluntary in the sense that you are free to join another society. However there is no guarantee that another society will let you join and there's no...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-29-2007, 11:18 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
Re: For moral relativists

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You seem to be saying that people shouldn't do what they think they should do, and instead do what you think they should do.

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Really? What do I think they should do?

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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-29-2007, 11:15 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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This has been pointed out before. You clearly are not intellectually honest in this thread in that you will not consider new small-scale communal societies as a paradigm.

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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-28-2007, 11:50 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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off topic reply so I don't want this to derail the thread, but why would you want to have your life and the rules you live by defined by some people who...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-28-2007, 11:47 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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Yes, yet I think that it might change the discussion away from the main point, and on to specific logical issues with the...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-28-2007, 11:47 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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Most people isn't all. You're looking at an aggregate, and ignoring the effects on individuals. If 99 people gang up and kick 1 person to death, well, this seems like "most...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-28-2007, 11:45 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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If it's voluntary, it's entirely compatible with what I'm supporting. So I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-28-2007, 02:04 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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Yes, yet I think that it might change the discussion away from the main point, and on to specific logical issues with the example. A vast majority of people decide...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-28-2007, 02:02 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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You are being intentionally obtuse.

Living in my hypothetical community with shared land ownership requires that you consent to living according to the town...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-25-2007, 10:00 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
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Yes, yet I think that it might change the discussion away from the main point, and on to specific logical issues with the example. A vast majority of people decide what morally is right...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-25-2007, 09:42 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
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You are being intentionally obtuse.

Living in my hypothetical community with shared land ownership requires that you consent to living according to the town charter.

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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-25-2007, 12:31 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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What does Jerry's agreement have to do with consistency? Seems like you want to use consistency as your way of saying any moral system that...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-24-2007, 11:25 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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What does Jerry's agreement have to do with consistency? Seems like you want to use consistency as your way of saying any moral system that does not allow individual...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-24-2007, 04:29 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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What does Jerry's agreement have to do with consistency? Seems like you want to use consistency as your way of saying any moral system that does not allow individual choice doesn't meet...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-24-2007, 04:26 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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I am intrigued by the idea of moral relativism but I do not view the morals as a subjective choice. Instead I belief it is a cultural one taken from the current zeitgist of the society or...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-23-2007, 11:47 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
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Hypothetically, if one had a moral system which justifies seizing property of those with an excess of 10x the average and giving to...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-23-2007, 01:31 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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"My personal preferences are for moral systems which are consistent over those which are inconsistent, and for systems which treat all people as equal (morally) over systems...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-23-2007, 01:29 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
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Hypothetically, if one had a moral system which justifies seizing property of those with an excess of 10x the average and giving to those well below the...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-22-2007, 09:51 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
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Hypothetically, if one had a moral system which justifies seizing property of those with an excess of 10x the average and giving to those well below the average, is this...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-22-2007, 12:24 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
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Again, be more specific.

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Come on over to poltics. Like I said, this pole only really makes sense in the context of the threads which spawned it.
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 08-21-2007, 11:14 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 398
Posted By pvn
Re: For moral relativists

I knew this would happen as soon as I saw that iron moved this thread. The OP uses particular phrases that are often used in the Politics forum; it's basically shorthand that's emerged in that...
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