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Forum: Politics 11-15-2007, 12:14 AM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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. Partly because you are coming at me with philosophical terms that I’m not familiar with. Or at least philosophical definitions that I’m not familiar with. So when you say “x” means b, I...
Forum: Politics 11-14-2007, 12:03 AM
Replies: 128
Views: 616
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Moral relativity

I vote no.
Forum: Politics 11-13-2007, 11:40 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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I don’t see what saying things like “this is a statement and therefore true or false, therefore it seems there are objective moral facts” accomplishes. You still have to support these...
Forum: Politics 11-13-2007, 02:52 AM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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Ok. Then the burden of proof is on the one positing that there are objective ethical facts. It’s my job to question the evidence or logic behind such facts. If there is no good reasoning...
Forum: Politics 11-12-2007, 03:01 AM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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And BTW, are you really suggesting we can just make up premises arbitrarily

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Absolutely not.

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because science isn't 100% empirical (I don't know...
Forum: Politics 11-12-2007, 02:49 AM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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It's easy to think of many a relative basis for a moral decision or principle. I think I've already given an example or two.

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You haven't given any that are 'clearly'...
Forum: Politics 11-11-2007, 02:19 AM
Replies: 85
Views: 642
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Pro-Life is Liberterian

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A contract doesn't enslave where there is the opportunity of just compensation.

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No, a contract never enslaves, period. This is what it means for rights to be...
Forum: Politics 11-10-2007, 06:23 PM
Replies: 85
Views: 642
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Pro-Life is Liberterian

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If a foetus is a human being (I don't know) then it absolutely has the right live at the expense of it's mothers interests. Having sex without protection or with inadequate protection is...
Forum: Politics 11-09-2007, 01:38 AM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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I apologize for my use of the word “obvious”.
I may be misusing the word ‘subjective’ since I’m a little fuzzy on its meaning. I’ll try to stick with ‘relative’.

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Forum: Politics 11-08-2007, 04:16 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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If I prefer listening to Madonna than Mozart and I make the claim that she’s better how can you prove me wrong?

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Perhaps by appealing to facts about music, appealing...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 09:42 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 401
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Libertarian Troll Bingo!

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I happen to think carrying a child you are responsible for bringing into the world long enough that it can experience life outside the womb is extremely reasonable. Apparently a lot of...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 06:50 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 401
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Libertarian Troll Bingo!

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What about responsibility though? Is the woman not entirely responsible for her own circumstances (as well as those of the fetus), except in cases of rape?

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She might...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 01:13 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 401
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Libertarian Troll Bingo!

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Abortion is not defensive because the fetus poses no threat to the woman (nor is it capable of an act of aggression)

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Putting aside the issue of abortion being...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 12:47 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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With these assumptions, the only way an interaction between two people can be "legitimate" or "right" or "moral" is if both of those people agree.


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How can we get...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 02:38 AM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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there is no set of morals that is obectively true.

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This is a statement; it is either true or false. It *might* be true, but it is a controversial statement that...
Forum: Politics 11-06-2007, 02:08 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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Btw moral relativism is the reality of the world we live in.

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What do you mean by "reality of the world we live in"? Do you mean that in the sense that moral...
Forum: Politics 11-06-2007, 12:12 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 1,242
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

This thread is now way too long for me to read through, but let me comment on this:

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I always thought the term "natural rights" was an oxymoron. In nature, you declare "property...
Forum: Politics 10-25-2007, 10:12 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 902
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Anarcho Capitalism take 1million

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If we have to show that one value, any value, can never be superceded by another one for it to be a legitmate value, that value is clearly not a legitmate value as there is no such value...
Forum: Politics 10-25-2007, 01:29 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 156
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Libertarianism in non-ideal theory

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1) Redistribution of any kind: Currently, one's resources depend enormously on past gov't programs and policies and one's future resources will depend on future ones; for example, on...
Forum: Politics 10-25-2007, 01:21 AM
Replies: 146
Views: 902
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Anarcho Capitalism take 1million

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This is far, far, far, far too quick. There are other necessary steps which take us from self-ownership to world/property ownership that right wing libertarians favor; one can (and some...
Forum: Politics 10-24-2007, 10:16 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 902
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Anarcho Capitalism take 1million

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That you assume complexities in the case of children, yet discount the existence of complexities in slavery doesn't just make it so....unless that you assume that every possible slave in...
Forum: Politics 10-24-2007, 08:38 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 902
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Anarcho Capitalism take 1million

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nietz, thank you for consistently posting your well-considered and reasonable thoughts on morality.

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Good to know at least one person enjoys them!...
Forum: Politics 10-24-2007, 08:36 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 902
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Anarcho Capitalism take 1million

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This is, of course, completely correct. If a person (A) doesn't believe in ACist Property Rights puts up a tent on some property that a guy (B) "mixed his labor with" (or whatever theory...
Forum: Politics 10-24-2007, 08:31 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 902
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Anarcho Capitalism take 1million

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In fact, regardless of government, I was only addressing the justification of the aggression...and despite Tom's appeal to the majority that the father would be justified for employing...
Forum: Politics 10-24-2007, 04:23 PM
Replies: 146
Views: 902
Posted By nietzreznor
Re: Anarcho Capitalism take 1million

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That being the case, why is it "QFT" that that it is justified for a man to employ violence against someone who hasn't aggressed against him or his property, and merely acted to...
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