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Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 07:47 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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I'd just like to chime in here on the belief expressed by some that this investigation is somehow losing steam, or that AP has "won" (whatever that means) because there hasn't been a...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 07:09 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

LINK TO THAT STORY ANYWHERE /images/graemlins/confused.gif
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 06:34 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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if you can drink beer while you are playing it.. it isn't a sport

[/ QUOTE ]i have played a variety of sports "pissed" in my time?? /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 05:09 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
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I just want to highlight that there is no evidence - beyond an anonymous poster on an internet message board - that there was any wrong doing by AP in the car raffle...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 05:04 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

yes it may be that he owns a stake in AP but has no knowledge day to day running of the comnpany or any knowledge of its inner workings. he may well be innocent of any wrong doing. but would someone...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 04:22 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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- We can have organized teams that let AP players know about the scandal at the tables.

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- We can have organized teams of 2p2 pro's go in and clean out the...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 03:03 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
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El D,

Do you notice the correlation between registration date on 2+2 and enthusiasm for getting AP banned from the entire world?

I guess it's something you have to see a...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 02:58 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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Nat,

The most likely scenario by far is that management and ownership of Absolute was aware and/or involved of this stuff going on. Yet, even after having the cheating pointed out,...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 02:28 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
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i read earlier that quebec authoraties are looking at this situation, and view the server farm as illeagal. if they decide to raid it, most of the online poker worlds severs are...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 01:56 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

i read earlier that quebec authoraties are looking at this situation, and view the server farm as illeagal. if they decide to raid it, most of the online poker worlds severs are situated there......
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 12:40 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

oh just a thought here. people say why would a 250 million dolar business risk it all on a 800k they have stolen= the sums involved are far larger than people suspect. i imagine cjheating has goenon...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 12:01 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
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Ike,

I didn't mean to be a dick. Just wanted to point out that your decision to not go back might be easier and prove more correct if you consider that...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-22-2007, 03:20 AM
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Views: 5,907
Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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I has a new avatar.

F AP

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Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 07:17 PM
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Views: 5,907
Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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Ok so now we have to decide what is better.

A safe site full of 2+2ers
Or a possibly cheating site full of fish???

[/ QUOTE ]this is the cold hard depressing truth, this is what AP...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 07:03 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
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For others (like me) is bye-bye online poker.

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Peace!

[/ QUOTE ]unless people are gonna cheat under 5/10 nlhe i hope to be off the radar of any possible...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 05:53 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

[/ QUOTE ]basically this billion dollar industry will attempt anything to keep the status quo.. the only power we have as consumers of these products is to boycott them. their bank roll is a helluva...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 05:44 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

im sure other sites would gladly accomodate a deeper stack game if that what their customers wanted andwould gladly offer such tables. in the light of events im sure sites will be a lot more...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 05:26 PM
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Views: 5,907
Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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Oh yeah that isn't meant to be personal or anything, just that the same logic that is going to bring you back is the same logic that AP uses to avoid giving us the truth on this issue as...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 05:10 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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Has anyone come up with an actual amount of stolen money? A lot of different figures have been thrown around, but I haven't seen anything really solid

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Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 04:57 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
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Also, AJ was NOT a consultant. Maybe it was his technical title, but it was not the reality of the situation. That's an AP attempt to distance...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 04:22 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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Why do people doubt the integrity of the Kahwanake? Hundreds of years ago the Kahnawake signed a document with the French surrounding them conceding that they are an independent nation. As...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 04:01 PM
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Views: 5,907
Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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3 things can be done:

1/ buckle Mohawk by media exposure which highlights their incompetence & illegal practices, making sure that all other businesses utilizing Mohawk are made aware....
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 03:41 PM
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Posted By zen_rounder
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Also, I do actually believe that AP, KGC, etc will be a changed organization after this -- not necessarily clean, but changed. They would never do anything this...
Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 03:27 PM
Replies: 904
Views: 5,907
Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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Kurt,

Joe Norton is as concerned as you and will make sure these things are all looked into very closely!

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Forum: Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance 10-21-2007, 03:20 PM
Replies: 904
Views: 5,907
Posted By zen_rounder
Re: AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

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This is outrageous to say the least.

We need to use every avenue possible to bring this company down.

These criminals need to pay for their crimes, we can not let them go unpunished....
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