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Forum: Politics 11-08-2007, 01:16 PM
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Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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Serious question to those who think that AC is completely free from coercion:

Who enforces property rights?

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Not this canard again.

Don't you even TRY to understand...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 09:14 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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Oh yeah, and 10 million people died.

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Its a bit of a strawman attacking Chomsky for something he said in 1970.

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Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 08:23 PM
Replies: 134
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Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

Doesn't sound like it.
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 08:13 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

Well, like I said, if anarchosyndicalism could work at all it would have to be structured in such a way that essentially just makes it anarchocapitalism. I.e., sure the workers could own the factors...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 08:06 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

Oh yeah, and 10 million people died.
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 08:03 PM
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Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

Anarchosyndicalism != anarchosocialism. Anarchosyndicalism, if it were structured to work at all, would simply be a subset of anarchocapitalism.

True anarchosocialism, specifically a social norm...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 07:40 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

Anarchosocialism works great for small bands living at a Stone Age level of subsistance.
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 07:19 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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Anarcho-syndicalism is based on principles of equality & freedom. Anarcho-capitalism is based on principles of property rights & freedom.

There really isn't much more to it than that....
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 06:01 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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Been listening to some Salerno lectures, Boro? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 04:01 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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Borodog wrote:

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productivity would completely crash without private ownership.... if you started with a completely, totally equal division of property, in the first minute of...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 03:48 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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"Uh, that isn't private ownership. Do you know what the word "private" means? It means individual. "

No, private ownership is not exclusive to individual ownership over something....
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 03:25 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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yes and none of the front page sources are credible

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Given that they all quote Chomsky, I can see why you would say this.

This is a ridiculous statement. Have you even...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 03:14 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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"Uh, no I didn't. Where?"


"Dude, if the factors of production are privately owned and there is freedom of exchange, then it's capitalism. That's the *definition* of...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 03:10 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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Jesus, go away. Everyone here is well equipped at doing google searches and can realise for themselves that Chosmy did not support the Cambodian genocide- or deny it.

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I...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 03:07 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

And why did you skip the part where I pointed out that the labor theory of value is false, and that your "not privately owned land" is apparently identical to privately owned land?
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 03:05 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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And why did you only respond to 8 words in the middle of a single sentence and snip the rest of my post?

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because you stated a false premise which made the rest...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 02:55 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

And why did you only respond to 8 words in the middle of a single sentence and snip the rest of my post?
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 02:54 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

So you point me to a property theory based on a wholly incorrect and discredited value theory? The labor theory of value is flatly false.

And how, exactly, is the idea that land "should be held by...
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 02:34 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

Prebutted.
Forum: Politics 11-07-2007, 02:30 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 643
Posted By Borodog
Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)

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Would people work less in an egalitarian society? Yes, insofar as they are driven to work by the need for survival; or by material reward, a kind of pathology, I believe, like the kind of...
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