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Forum: Beginners Questions 10-05-2007, 02:16 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 81
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Luck vs. Skill

Never meant to get "fancy" I can fold my way into the top 3 just as easy as sit out. My thought was that at lower stacks that might be the more adventages way to go. People will suck out because they...
Forum: Poker Theory 10-05-2007, 02:06 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 191
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Question

Thank you for this insight will look at it and glean what I can. Apprciate you taking time to enlighten, did not know anything about fold equity. Are there books that go into the subject? I am...
Forum: Poker Theory 10-02-2007, 08:30 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 191
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Question

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[Say the pot's 300, and you bet 100. You figure this will make him fold his set 20% of the time. So your fold equity is 60. You can figure out for yourself whether it would be worth...
Forum: Poker Theory 10-02-2007, 08:19 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 191
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Question

Thank you for this info. I will digest it as a new player to poker. I think maybe given the pot odds with his original bet i would have folded. Just wondered some thoughts on if i raised what would i...
Forum: Poker Theory 09-29-2007, 01:14 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 191
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Question

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You have very little fold equity against a set.

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Honestly, did not give much thought to this other then figuring Pot Odds and BEP's

Realitively new to the game not sure...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-29-2007, 12:42 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

By the way a raise of 450 to a total 800 would give the J's a poor BEP
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 11:22 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

8 outs, 6 known cards, 46 unknown.

8 good 38 bad (hey another ratio)
4.75 to 1

Rounding up to 5 and dividing by 1= 20% let's not round up and just divide 1 by 4.75=21%
seems to be getting...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 10:04 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

I'm assuming Crazy used 850/350 to get the ratio 2.4:1 which as you know from the 11ty billion explanations so far is the same as 1/3.4.[ QUOTE ]

and for the billionth time 2.4:1 does not...
Forum: Poker Theory 09-28-2007, 08:24 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 191
Posted By ThomasDayton
Question

I hope this is correct for this forum:

"The board has 5 of hearts, J of hearts, 8 of hearts, 4 of clubs.
You hold AQ off and the A is hearts
You put your opponent on having pocket J's
The pot...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 03:33 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

One thing also with Crazy's answer that I have a problem with is, that if you divide 850 by 350 you get @ 2.4 and those are the pot odds not the break even. And Fry agrees (I think) and so do I you...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 03:18 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

The only difference I see is crazy actually did the math for 8 outs where as you just looked it up. So the question stands; Can you do the math to come up with 18.2%?

I heard Phil Melmoth...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 03:06 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

As far as him giving the correct answer and there was no need for any more. I titled this post problem and not question. I thought because of the other Post it might be nice to have a problem to work...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 02:57 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

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The reason there were no other attempts is because the first attempt was successful. No more attempts needed.

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So you agree that with 8 outs you have a 5 to 1...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 02:45 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

Tell me then what is the % of making the hand with 8 outs on the river?
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 02:33 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

As for the question I asked when I gave my answer I had not figured it yet I just wondered what raise would give a BEP that would make him think that a call might not be profitable. When I figured it...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 02:19 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

I did not say that crazy eyes answer was wrong I said he gave his answer and I gave mine. Those were the only two. I said to make the hand he needs 18.2% and his BEP is 29% and that was my answer to...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 01:54 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

Now I'm curious. You've always used the 2,4 (or 4,2) rule in the past but now you come up with 18.2. I find it hard to believe you think you have 9.1 outs (9.1*2=18.2) So, how did you figure this...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 01:02 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

Very astute to leave the math to others. So you do not have to appear ignorant again!
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 12:58 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

The reason there were no other attempts is because the first attempt was successful. No more attempts needed.

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So you agree that with 8 outs you have a 5 to 1 chance of winning the...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 11:59 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

I stand corrected. The minimum raise "would" give 18% BEP true, but that is not enough to make him fold with 10 outs. True I am new to poker but I do understand who to compute pot odds and BEP unlike...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 11:21 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

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There are other possibilities here that must all be weighted into any decision. Its not just a simple question of pot odds, which taken alone does not justify a call.

1. Remaining...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 03:30 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

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if youre going to include FE this should prob be a discussion in the theory forum

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I was looking myself for an amount of a raise (realisticly) that would cause the BEP to be...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-28-2007, 02:24 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

I'd love to play in the card room that fry would pretty much never fold trips with 3 hearts on the board!
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-27-2007, 10:52 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Re: Problem

On the river you have a 18.2% chance of winning.
Pot odds are 850/350 or 2.4 to 1
Break even % is 1/2.4+1 or 1/3.4 or 29%
You need a 29% chance or better to win for it to be profitable in the long...
Forum: Beginners Questions 09-27-2007, 07:27 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 223
Posted By ThomasDayton
Problem

The board has 5 of hearts, J of hearts, 8 of hearts, 4 of clubs.
You hold AQ off and the A is hearts
You put your opponent on having pocket J's
The pot has 500 chips and your opponent bets 350
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