Forum: Medium Stakes
11-20-2007, 05:09 PM
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Replies: 7
Views: 119
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-18-2007, 07:44 AM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
I doubt the "opt in"-population would be big enough any time soon, I don't know though.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-15-2007, 05:54 PM
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Replies: 14
Views: 413
Re: Social Darwinism and Morals
Maybe the biggest mistake was that he thought almost all others are pretty much robots then, and compared to us he is "godlike" (although he only slightly overvalues his own skills, which is not...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-15-2007, 05:10 PM
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Replies: 14
Views: 413
Re: Social Darwinism and Morals
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This guy isn't a logical thinker. His premises are probably so far gone that a psychological approach is superior to a logical approach.
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How can you say that he isn't a...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-15-2007, 03:23 PM
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Replies: 14
Views: 413
Re: Social Darwinism and Morals
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Now it seems to me that the big logical problem here is, that he only thought he had achieved this "master morality", when truely he had not and was really thinking like he...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-15-2007, 08:16 AM
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Replies: 14
Views: 413
Re: Social Darwinism and Morals
He thought current society is too [censored] up, unnatural and enslaves people, so he wouldn't want to live in it, and that anything better isn't realistic to be achieved any more, so he wanted to...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-15-2007, 06:32 AM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
dragonystic,
how about any trait having to be very widely accepted to be valued?
tarhee,
how does it isolate it? And I don't think moral issues are worth discussing in the same thread (at...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-15-2007, 06:22 AM
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Replies: 14
Views: 413
Re: Social Darwinism and Morals
Well, he seemed to value philosophical and rational thinking very highly, and see himself as part of an elite group that thinks deeply and is intelligent, while also being "strong-minded" and having...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-15-2007, 05:32 AM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
I think the vast majority would agree about some desirable traits.
It's defined as social philosophy, not science in wikipedia.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-15-2007, 05:14 AM
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Replies: 14
Views: 413
Social Darwinism and Morals
Here in Finland we had this guy that went to shoot 8 people in the name of natural selection, and then himself. It went like this:
He decided he had abandoned slave morality and created himself a...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 11:51 PM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
StayHungry,
are you drunk?
What do you mean by "erasing people"?
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 11:16 PM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
vhawk,
I'm not only talking about intelligence, empathy is important too (I don't know how much genes have to do with that though, or how it would be detected well).
What are you basing your...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 10:22 PM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
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Eugenics could solve the problem that stupid people reproduce more
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Why is that a problem?
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 09:18 PM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
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You obviously are pretty ignorant to many things about humanity and history.
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You obviously are pretty ignorant about future and what humanity could be.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 08:35 PM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
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2.) It is illogical. It is based on assumptions that are at best misguided.
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Care to explain?
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3.) It is impractical. Because enforcing it means...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 02:37 AM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
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the mouse/snake/mongoose/gorilla problem.
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And what is this problem?
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 02:21 AM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
foal,
how about just criminalizing making a second own child? I don't see need for forced sterilization. Forced abortion, maybe, depending on how early it is (I don't have an opinion on abortion...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 02:12 AM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Re: Eugenics
I don't know how big the gene pool would need to be, but with 6 billion people on this planet, I think it probably wouldn't be a big problem.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-14-2007, 12:56 AM
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Replies: 104
Views: 986
Eugenics
What are the problems with eugenics (other than possible moral problems)? Don't genes matter enough? Sounds like a reasonable idea to me, that we would try to increase the amount of positive traits...
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Forum: Other Other Topics
11-07-2007, 07:48 PM
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Replies: 111
Views: 741
Re: Finnish High School Massacre
most of what this guy wrote that i've read made sense, and while it's a rare and probably quite inefficient way to try to achive his goals, in the end it's only a matter of taste whether you for some...
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Forum: BBV4Life
11-01-2007, 04:10 PM
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Replies: 466
Views: 3,902
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Forum: EDF
10-17-2007, 08:19 AM
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Replies: 111
Views: 1,102
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Forum: Books and Publications
10-14-2007, 10:25 AM
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Replies: 3
Views: 69
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Forum: Beginners Questions
10-14-2007, 10:00 AM
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Replies: 35
Views: 240
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Forum: The Lounge: Discussion+Review
10-13-2007, 08:18 PM
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Replies: 48
Views: 206
Re: Does selfishness ever bother you?
If I can ALWAYS see evidence of something, then isn't there good reason to suspect that that something is true?
In such an extreme, rare cases as the grenade guy, the soldier can still do it...
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