Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 11:41 PM
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Re: Case in Point...
I guess I'll just wrap up by saying I don't see how you can assume they "tend" to approve of their restrictions. Again, they don't have a choice. As luckyme suggested when they DO have a choice and...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 09:58 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue">Come on, you know those aren't apt analogies. </font>
The anologies are very apt, because they both entail people who fear for their lives if they rebell. They both also...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 09:53 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue"> I just think we tend to overestimate the extent to which Muslim women are forced to into a lifestyle they hate. </font>
They have no choice! You do understand that, right? ...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 07:56 PM
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Replies: 99
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Re: Case in Point...
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You're right that the roots of women being oppressed by men is probably not religious. Religion is just what scares people into keeping this custom alive and make it still seem...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 12:42 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
You're right that the roots of women being oppressed by men is probably not religious. Religion is just what scares people into keeping this custom alive and make it still seem justifiable in the...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 02:57 AM
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Replies: 99
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Re: Case in Point...
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<font color="blue"> We can’t “own women”. What are the rules of atheism? </font>
No, but you can stone her to death on her doorstep upon learning she's not a virgin before...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 02:54 AM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
But I'm being serious. Surely you've seen the posts by theists wanting to know where we atheists derive our morality from. They claim it's impossible without the bible. Why don't we just rape,...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 02:45 AM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue">Right. But, if one is knowledgeable of Islam, one can give an opinion whether or not this is a correct interpretation of the Koran. </font>
Ahh. So you use your own morality...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 02:39 AM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue"> We can’t “own women”. What are the rules of atheism? </font>
No, but you can stone her to death on her doorstep upon learning she's not a virgin before you marry her.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 02:37 AM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
Wait a sec... I thought you disagreed! Didn't you say in another thread (in response to chezlaw in fact), that ridicule should only match the severity of the dellusion?
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-01-2007, 12:41 AM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue">We posters aren’t going to do anything about this. </font>
I feel I'm doing something (albeit all to little), by merely trying to bring attention to this atrocity and be...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 11:52 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue"> 1) I don’t have an opinion on this. If one wants to believe in this (if that is what a correct interpretation of Islam says) then, oh well. </font>
I can't believe what I've...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 11:06 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue">the prison staff and warden and the mental health guys all know it goes on and they look the other way and let it go on and in extreme cases they actively enable it. </font>
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 11:02 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue"> However, there are millions upon millions of Muslims who think these practices are abhorrent. </font>
Let's stop there. I'm seriously trying to have a fruitful discussion. ...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 10:57 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
<font color="blue">I mean, honestly how many people in the U.S. know the difference between the different Middle Eastern nations and the different forms of Islam? It's such a sensitive topic I just...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
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<font color="blue">But if you mock and ridicule them and simply refer to them as "Muslims" you are alienating everyone who doesn't believe those things but considers themselves Muslim. </font>
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 10:43 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
One of us doesn't get it. Maybe it's me.
The degree of nuttiness is irrevelant. It's the core axioms that are off. It's from these beginning axioms that major nuttiness occurs.
And we're...
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Forum: Laughs or Links!
11-30-2007, 08:52 PM
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Replies: 18
Views: 2,179
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 08:40 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
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I mean here in US thousands of people are raped every day in prison and nobody cares. hell, most people think it's great.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 08:36 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Re: Case in Point...
But this (I thought) is Saudi Arabia. For some reason I thought they were more reformed than most. Maybe that's just because of their relation with the US.
I love the quote! I wish more...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 07:05 PM
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Replies: 43
Views: 3,698
Re: The Best Poster in SMP
<font color="blue"> It seems like what happens is that some random people come in, get torn to shreds by the intelligent and poignant commentary and then slink away embarrassed. If you're still...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 07:01 PM
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Replies: 8
Views: 503
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 06:51 PM
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Replies: 99
Views: 6,563
Case in Point...
If the punishment hasn't been carried out yet, it will be soon. A 19 year old woman will be lashed 200 times and spend 6 months in jail. That is, if her brother doesn't kill her first. Her crime?...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 02:05 PM
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Replies: 43
Views: 3,698
Re: The Best Poster in SMP
Maybe it's because you and Sklansky are teachers that you think in such terms as 'best' (if DS isn't officially a teacher, he's for sure one in spirit).
To be honest, I don't have a best,...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-30-2007, 08:15 AM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,817
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I'm not sure how or why the prefix "neo" is used. Most likely because it's come to stand for the new-age atheist who is more outspoken.
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