Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

First hand at the table, no data mined reads on villain. Pretty standard? I planned to call about a 2/3 PSB.

Turn bet was a little small, although the converter doesnt subtract for rake. It was roughly 3/4 PSB, std for me

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $142.05
UTG+1: $140.35
CO: $64.15
Button: $63.65
SB: $114.10
Hero: $100

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.5, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4.5</font>, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($13.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players)
Hero checks.....

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

c/f!

There are too many better 2p hands and straights here to call down. Bet more on the turn.

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

yeah check call. he knows you don't like the river after you check and will he likely bet a missed FD

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

Gotta check/fold this, i don't really have a problem with the turn bet here.

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

what about a bigger turn bet? closer to a PSB like 12ish.

and the river... i think check and call anything less than 2/3 PSB back. 4 to the str8 and someone whose been calling down the whole never looks good. you could maybe fold to a river bet but id like to look this guy up.

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

Does no one advocate a blocking bet here? I think a lot of times people will sense weakness and bet to try and steal. I would seriously consider putting out a 13 dollar blocking bet and fold to any more aggression from villain.

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

nasty

it's a limped pot so all the weird 2 pair hands that beat you are still plausible Q8, Q9. Q5, J9, J8, J5, 95, 98. Lots of T's could play this way like T8, T9, TJ a Tc clubs and any othe club etc. Even a slowplyed flopped str8 isn't out of the picture.

c/f to any bet unless you have a read that this player is the type who auto bets a checked river, and even then only if the bet is small.

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

All,

The turn bet looks small because the converter doesnt subtract rake. It was a 3/4 PSB

What range do you put villain on for those who advocate a c/f? I think close to 80% of the time villain has a flush draw.

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

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Does no one advocate a blocking bet here? I think a lot of times people will sense weakness and bet to try and steal. I would seriously consider putting out a 13 dollar blocking bet and fold to any more aggression from villain.

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I think the only thing thjat calls here is a hand that beats me. The only way to get value is to c/c

Re: Flopped Two Pair, scary river OOP
 

if thats your read that 80% he has a busted draw, you have to c/c - no question.

I think 80% is a vast over estimate but I wasn't there.