109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

10 Players
no one with more than 3000 or less than 1000
Blinds 50/100
Villian lost his chips without a showdown by loosing the blinds and folding two hands after the flop.

Villian UTG (1400) limps.
Everyone folds to me (1850) in CO-1 with AKo.
I raised to 350, only UTG calls and after rainbow-flop 952 or something of course pushes me out of the hand...

Being aware of this scenario next time BEFORE betting... how to adjust?

I think pushing should be +EV, but are there better opportunities? Just call? Do you think betting 350 is bad poker?

Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

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Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

hey all, at least flame me for asking stupid questions and explain why they are stupid but don't ignore me ;-)!

thx, bennies, though...

Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

Disclaimer I do not play at anything near this Buy-in

There are two positions in Poker. Been first to Act and been Last to Act.

Limping PF allows the button to look at the flop if they want leaving you in the middle which is bad. Raise/Push either I think is good.

On this flop UTG if he has any clue is open-pushing this. So your fold is correct.

I think you played this correctly and given the flop its unavoidable.

Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

What do you mean he pushes you out of the hand. How much did he bet into the 850c pot? If you really meant he pushed I guess I'd give him the credit for executing a perfect stop and go. Cuz I don't think he'd do it with AQ or AJ.

Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

I make the same raise.

He probably has t7s

But shoving seems too risky with the utg limp, and I want to raise this hand for sure to have position/price the blinds/protect hand whatever

Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

From time to time I shove this, but normally I play it the same way you did.

Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

you played it fine. pushing is certainly +ev, but i think just raising is a little more +ev.

also remember it's not mandatory to fold the flop shove. he's pushing 1050 into 850, and i think it's pretty rare that you're going to be worse than 6 outs. by cEV you need to be ~36% to win given pot odds and you're ~24% to win if you have 6 outs twice. so it's bad to call there, but it's a super disaster to fold when villain has Ax or Kx and you're 90+% to win.

Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

There's no way you can call the flop push though.

Re: 109sp AKo, Stop-and-go-avoiding
 

You can't really "adjust for next time" because you don't know if he intended a stop and go or if this flop was favorable for his hand.