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Dave I 04-04-2006 07:41 PM

First Hand Donkness
 
Very first hand. Crazy, standard, or meh?


Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $6.10
CO: $59.05
Button: $10.60
SB: $39.33
Hero: $50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.25, 5 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.75</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($7.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $46.75</font>

BalugaWhale 04-04-2006 07:42 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
wellllll

thats destined to get called

c/c, bust him on the river.

AZplaya 04-04-2006 07:44 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
You played it exactly like the hand you have: A draw. I don't think Villian will believe you have a straight because you wouldn't try to push him off his hand. I would c/c a reasonable bet and river a spade.

Dan Bitel 04-04-2006 07:45 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
dave,

if you want to try this move, a C/R is like 100 times better

also, can you buy in for 200BB on absolute?

KP84 04-04-2006 07:46 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
why risk soo much? He can kinda assume you didnt raise with 78 and even if you did why would you push THAT hard and not make a value bet?

AZplaya 04-04-2006 07:48 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
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if you want to try this move, a C/R is like 100 times better

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Donk question here: Is this because it makes it appear more believable that hero has a straight?

BalugaWhale 04-04-2006 07:50 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
It may, I doubt it.

This move is bad for one very obvious reason: villain likes his hand. We might as well see a river and stack him then, cause he's likely to pay us off.

Dan Bitel 04-04-2006 07:54 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
if you want to try this move, a C/R is like 100 times better

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Donk question here: Is this because it makes it appear more believable that hero has a straight?

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Yes and also b/c we trap some dead money.

NOTE: IMO c/c is better, but just saying, if you want to get it all in, there are better ways.

I'm actually not sure what I prefer, a C/R or b/3b on this turn *if* we want to get all in...thoughts? or is c/c just so far superior to both?

BalugaWhale 04-04-2006 07:55 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
i think a c/c is FAR superior to any other line on this turn

Dave I 04-04-2006 07:55 PM

Re: First Hand Donkness
 
[ QUOTE ]
You played it exactly like the hand you have: A draw. I don't think Villian will believe you have a straight because you wouldn't try to push him off his hand. I would c/c a reasonable bet and river a spade.

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True, it looks like that. FWIW, I do the exact same thing with the made hand pretty often. I get paid often too.


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