Limp reraise hand with AA meets KKx flop
This is a hand Four_2 (AKA Frank) asked me to post that came up at the table we were at the other night.
Villain in this hand was a horrid player who everyone at the table was trying to get a piece of. He would typically slow play and check raises his big hands. From Frank on the open limp with AA in the CO: [ QUOTE ] Of course, limping AA was planned becuase villain was certain to raise from the bb and he was easy to out play post-flop. [/ QUOTE ] Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $84.75 UTG+1: $55.20 Frank: $117.70 Button: $96.65 Hero: $113.85 BB: $100 Pre-flop: (6 players) Frank is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 folds, Frank calls $1, Button folds, Hero folds,<font color="#cc3333">BB raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#cc3333">Frank raises to $12</font>, BB calls $7.5. Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($24.5, 2 players) BB checks, Frank checks. Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($24.5, 2 players) BB checks, Frank...... Thoughts on his turn line? |
Re: Limp reraise hand with AA, KK flop
if you believe villain will call a turn bet with a hand you beat, bet.
I prefer a bigger preflop reraise especially since limp reraise announces your hand. I would repop to at least $16 and likely $20. |
Re: Limp reraise hand with AA, KK flop
Thanks for posting this. This villain was an ATM and had a full buy-in. He was worse than the typical 'bad' NL $100 player. It's the first time I've open limped AA since I can remember. Any flop but that one and the money is getting in.
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Re: Limp reraise hand with AA, KK flop
$15 bet, fold to the check raise since you indicate that he plays big hands this way.
What is villains range in these situations? Will he open with and then call a reraise with marginal hands like KJ or KQ? Or can we put villain on a mid PP and bet for value? |
Re: Limp reraise hand with AA, KK flop
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What is villains range in these situations? Will he open with and then call a reraise with marginal hands like KJ or KQ? Or can we put villain on a mid PP and bet for value? [/ QUOTE ] Villain was amazingly retarded and had it not been for me, he would have been broke long ago. I have a habit of plumping up the fish for the sharks to get fat off. His range is pretty much any two here. He would have a weak A, a PP, possibly a K, or some other form of rubbish which he has shown down in the past. |
Re: Limp reraise hand with AA meets KKx flop
he likes to checkraise...so my guess is he'd try for one twice. I check behind again on the turn. Hopefully he'll lead small at the river, or checkraise me after i catch an Ace.
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Re: Limp reraise hand with AA, KK flop
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What is villains range in these situations? Will he open with and then call a reraise with marginal hands like KJ or KQ? Or can we put villain on a mid PP and bet for value? [/ QUOTE ] His range is wide. Any B-way with a K and any pp are definitely within his range. AK-A9 are there as well. I really want to get to showdown or a value bet paid. Am I better off betting the turn or river? |
Re: Limp reraise hand with AA, KK flop
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if you believe villain will call a turn bet with a hand you beat, bet. I prefer a bigger preflop reraise especially since limp reraise announces your hand. I would repop to at least $16 and likely $20. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. Overbet the pot slightly. I like it. This guy was bad so I really don't think he puts me on AA here with the LR. I do like this line. Do you do with 99-JJ on a rare occasion? I think I might LR once every 10k or so hands. |
Re: Limp reraise hand with AA, KK flop
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[ QUOTE ] What is villains range in these situations? Will he open with and then call a reraise with marginal hands like KJ or KQ? Or can we put villain on a mid PP and bet for value? [/ QUOTE ] His range is wide. Any B-way with a K and any pp are definitely within his range. AK-A9 are there as well. I really want to get to showdown or a value bet paid. Am I better off betting the turn or river? [/ QUOTE ] If he's not holding a K and you feel that betting could scare him off his mid PP or whiffed Ax then checking the turn is certainly an option. I'm not very tricky so I probably lead the turn and fold to a check raise since our read is that he'd play a good hand this way (by good I'll assume he can beat a single pair). I'd probably lead the river again if villain flat calls my turn bet. Thoughts? |
Re: Limp reraise hand with AA, KK flop
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[ QUOTE ] if you believe villain will call a turn bet with a hand you beat, bet. I prefer a bigger preflop reraise especially since limp reraise announces your hand. I would repop to at least $16 and likely $20. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. Overbet the pot slightly. I like it. This guy was bad so I really don't think he puts me on AA here with the LR. I do like this line. Do you do with 99-JJ on a rare occasion? I think I might LR once every 10k or so hands. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think I've limped reraised in a long time, mainly because I play 6 max. I never limp reraise 99-JJ. I am aggressive enough preflop that I do not get a lot of respect and thus I can't represent premium overpair. the other reason you have to think about is that the $12 limp reraise technically gives him correct implied odds to flop a set as he is calling 7.5 to win whatever is in the pot + remainder of your stack. thats not the worst flop for you. at least its not something like KQT or something like that. but it is a flop where you don't get a lot of value from hands you beat so checking behind on the turn is certainly fine. |
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