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mungpo 03-08-2006 05:10 PM

Fold river?
 
Button is a 33/0/1.6 after only 20 hands.
UTG is an unknown

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (10.16 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (13.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks

jakeduke 03-08-2006 05:15 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
No way I'm folding for 1 here.

I'd probably lead the turn and call down if I got raised.

morphd 03-08-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
20 hands isn't enough for me to fold, the pot is too big also. What the hell does UTG have? A weak King? J10 just got there. It looks like button has KQ or 88, but I can't fold for 1 more.

mungpo 03-08-2006 05:22 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
If UTG bets out do you fold?

morphd 03-08-2006 05:28 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If UTG bets out do you fold?

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I'd like to say I wouldn't overcall and you probably shouldn't call no matter what, but in the heat of battle I probably do. I play at AP a lot though where a guy will come alive and donk the turn or river with a Q for no good reason.

DING-DONG YO 03-08-2006 05:49 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
Button probably has 88 or even K8. KQ probably would have raised PF. Button hasn't raised PF yet, but 20 hands means nothing.

I put UTG on JT. All his play is consistent with JT.

I c/c river and fold if it comes back to me raised. Won't fold for one bet as pot is too big against two largely unknowns.

SnglMaltScotch 03-08-2006 05:55 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
What does the button cap with on the flop that you beat.... Anyone... Anyone... Nothing. He has KQ or 88 here a large percentage of the time. UTG has Uno cards. I have no idea, but he might have Kxc or something. I think that I can fold this with a clear conscience. I have absolutely no problem folding this if UTG wakes up.

jba 03-08-2006 06:00 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
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If UTG bets out do you fold?

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yes.

if button bets I call.

ArturiusX 03-08-2006 06:01 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
Any king, sometimes QJ.

I'm sure as hell not giving a guy like this any beenfits for being sane after 20 hands.

mungpo 03-08-2006 06:11 PM

Re: Fold river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
What does the button cap with on the flop that you beat.... Anyone... Anyone... Nothing. He has KQ or 88 here a large percentage of the time. UTG has Uno cards. I have no idea, but he might have Kxc or something. I think that I can fold this with a clear conscience. I have absolutely no problem folding this if UTG wakes up.

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Pretty much what I was thinking.


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