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mosdef 11-26-2007 09:16 PM

$5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
The flop was such that I didn't really want to give cheap cards. Is this optimal? Am I giving away value by not drawing someone along?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2715)
UTG+1 (t2565)
MP1 (t1280)
CO (t3195)
Button (t1060)
SB (t1250)
BB (t1435)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t125</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t100, BB calls t75

Flop: (t375) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets t150</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t2300</font>

sence25 11-26-2007 09:17 PM

Re: $5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
I raise 150 pf and raise flop to like 555 to give a flushdraw the chance to push.

mosdef 11-26-2007 09:46 PM

Re: $5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
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I raise 150 pf and raise flop to like 555 to give a flushdraw the chance to push.

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Yeah, seems kind of obvious now that you mention it.

Cawley 11-26-2007 09:52 PM

Re: $5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
Agree on the PF play i hate that raise 150 or 200 i make it here, same with flop i want the flush draw in so i make it 500 or so then shove on non diamond turn.

ger664 11-26-2007 09:56 PM

Re: $5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
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Agree on the PF play i hate that raise 150 or 200 i make it here, same with flop i want the flush draw in so i make it 500 or so then shove on non diamond turn.

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What are you doing when you get a diamond on the turn ??

Cawley 11-26-2007 10:05 PM

Re: $5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
We still have the 2nf then, but yeah i think it comes to an error in my game here if the diamond comes and he has the Ad i cant fold for his last 600 into this pot.

Scotty_12 11-26-2007 10:06 PM

Re: $5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
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Agree on the PF play i hate that raise 150 or 200 i make it here, same with flop i want the flush draw in so i make it 500 or so then shove on non diamond turn.

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Hopefully not folding the 2nd nuts

What are you doing when you get a diamond on the turn ??

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ger664 11-26-2007 10:15 PM

Re: $5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
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We still have the 2nf then, but yeah i think it comes to an error in my game here if the diamond comes and he has the Ad i cant fold for his last 600 into this pot.

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Thanks for the post fix Sccoty. Its a bigger error to even consider folding 2nd Nut flush here.

Cawley 11-26-2007 10:18 PM

Re: $5+0.50 KK, don\'t want to mess with flop
 
I would never fold it, was just sayin even if i wanted to i couldnt for the 600 and who knows maybe we needed the diamond to take the lead.


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