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1fineday 11-24-2007 07:51 PM

QQ in rrr pot, flop C/R
 
Villain is 23/7.6/.88
What should Hero do in such situations? Fold PF? Donk/fold flop? Donk/shove flop?
Or C/R is ok?
Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $29.25
CO: $33.03
BTN: $28.18
Hero (SB): $43.29
BB: $14.76
UTG: $27.37

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($13.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $9</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $36.79 and is All-In</font>

Khaos4k 11-24-2007 08:18 PM

Re: QQ in rrr pot, flop C/R
 
I fold pre-flop. I need a read here that says villain goes crazy with TT+. This is AA/KK far too often against a villain with a 7.6 PFR%.

Ace0fSpades 11-24-2007 08:31 PM

Re: QQ in rrr pot, flop C/R
 
I semi-agree with khaos, a villain with a PFR of 7.6 is never four betting anything but AA, KK, and sometimes AK (less likely). What has not been mentioned yet is how big the sample size is; I'm assuming it's &gt;200 so we can't be entirely sure he's quite as nitty as we're proposing. Neglecting this fact, I think I would call to see a flop but likely fold to any reasonable line (or flop a Q and double up).

insertnickname 11-24-2007 08:34 PM

Re: QQ in rrr pot, flop C/R
 
Fold PF.
His almost min-4-bet screams for Aces or Kings. What do you thing a player with this PFR stats has, when he raises your 3-bet like this?

ICMoney 11-24-2007 08:35 PM

Re: QQ in rrr pot, flop C/R
 
I make it 4 pf, esp oop.

Think the CR kind of sucks here.

If you check you get a CB from AK but you're never getting called by a worse hand.

He has a few outs at best if your ahead and why turn QQ into a bluff?

Would like your play better if you had AK yourself.

Check folding sucks b/c you're just playing QQ for set value without the odds.

You could CC flop, donk turn or CC flop and CF if the nit double barrels.


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