$25NL Jacks facing ugly Flop
 

No significant reads on villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($19.75)
SB ($13.60)
Hero ($25.45)
UTG ($5.75)
UTG+1 ($4.70)
MP1 ($14.65)
MP2 ($24.45)
CO ($4.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.90, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button folds, SB calls $3.

Flop: ($9) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?</font>

<font color="blue">I'm totally lost in situations like these. Villain has just a wee more than a PSB left. I can't bet without committing myself to the pot. I figure the only two options i have are:
1.: Shove
2.: Give up

And I don't like either.

I need a general advice here for situations where, being the PFA, I face small to medium Stacks, miss the board completely and a standard C-bet would commit myself to the pot. How am I gonna play these Situations in general??</font>

Thanks for comments and/or discussions.

Sugar Nut

Re: Jacks facing ugly Flop
 

Probably best to just give it up-he did call big raise PF-I think it is a way ahead or way behind situation. At a higher limit, and more $ behind, I am betting. Save your cash for a better spot.

Re: Jacks facing ugly Flop
 

I raise more preflop 5.50-6. c/f flop with the 2 overs... i'm betting with more frequency with one overcard depends on opponent.

Re: $25NL Jacks facing ugly Flop
 

This is an ugly flop for you but you may still be ahead, unlikely but possible.
I dont think you want to be putting any more money in this pot right now however so i check behind here.
Fold to any bet except a min bet.
If villain checks turn i might think about a half pot bet.

Re: $25NL Jacks facing ugly Flop
 

Meh, villain calls a 3bet preflop, that narrows his range down pretty to where I think your beating 99(maybe)and TT. You probably are able to get QQ to fold on a flop like this if they don't have the Qd. The A covers a large part of villains range and since they are playing with a half stack and have already put almost 1/3 of it in preflop its going to be hard to get them to fold here. Plus you having the flush makes no sense because of how PF went. I think I take the free card against an unknown and try to spike a set of jacks.

Re: $25NL Jacks facing ugly Flop
 

I'm with trebek on raising more preflop. Once this turd of a flop hits, I'm most likely c/fing. However, I think there may be some merit in making a silly $1 bet. The board is scary and if villain doesn't have a piece of it, there's a small chance he'll see the bet as you trying to keep him in. While the chance is pretty small, if it's more than 11%, then stabbing here is +EV.

Re: $25NL Jacks facing ugly Flop
 

Happy Birthday Capt!

You can't win 100% of your hands, nor are there always paths to win when you dont have it.

Just give this one up.

Re: $25NL Jacks facing ugly Flop
 

Like I just said in the "Do I have implied odds" Thread:

Thanks a lot for all your help and advice. Trying to improve.

Sugar Nut