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Baja15 11-23-2007 01:53 PM

NL100: Tough Spot when AQs makes TPTK on monotone flop
 
Villain in this hand is a 57/10/6 spewtard over a sample of around 300 hands.
I called on the flop because folding seemed too weak and i wanted to see a turn before committing to the hand. Is that spew? Should i just raise or fold there?

When villain led the turn, i didn't have a clue whether to push or fold.


OnGame's Room No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">CO ($166.00)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($101.35)</font>
SB ($179.00)
BB ($98.50)
UTG ($66.15)
UTG+1 ($94.00)
MP1 ($111.75)
MP2 ($184.45)
MP3 ($96.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls $1, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $20</font>,Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($54.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?

D_Lonnigan 11-23-2007 02:02 PM

Re: NL100: Tough Spot when AQs makes TPTK on monotone flop
 
I would fold. I think you are looking at at least two pair. There are way too many hands in his range that beat you with this board.

CLB 11-23-2007 02:05 PM

Re: NL100: Tough Spot when AQs makes TPTK on monotone flop
 
I think I'm folding to his CR on the flop. I guess it depends on how big of a spewtard you think he is, and on how likely he is to keep firing at you. If he's going to fire again on the turn and river then I definitely fold to the cr and find a better spot to get his $$.

With no [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] backup you're super vulnerable here...some of his range crushes you and there aren't too many hands that you're crushing other than a pure bluff. If he has a pair + a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] then its a coinflip.

Also, I'd have probably bet a little more on the flop, $12-14, but thats really nitpicking.

ship_it_trebek 11-23-2007 02:09 PM

Re: NL100: Tough Spot when AQs makes TPTK on monotone flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villain in this hand is a 57/10/6 spewtard over a sample of around 300 hands.
I called on the flop because folding seemed too weak and i wanted to see a turn before committing to the hand. Is that spew? Should i just raise or fold there?

When villain led the turn, i didn't have a clue whether to push or fold.


[/ QUOTE ]

You are either SA/WB here. What turn do you want to see? Besides another Q and the 2 As that aren't hearts, no turn is really going to be a good card. With that AF you can probably count on him betting the turn as well. I fold to the check m/r even if he is a spewtard.

Specialwon 11-23-2007 04:38 PM

Re: NL100: Tough Spot when AQs makes TPTK on monotone flop
 
Fold to c/r and def. fold turn, you are on his left elbow so you'll get a better spot than this later.

If anything I would reraise the flop, he only needs Kh or Ah to justify the c/r.

fold &gt; 3bet &gt; call flop imo.

Chargers In 07 11-23-2007 04:42 PM

Re: NL100: Tough Spot when AQs makes TPTK on monotone flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
fold &gt; 3bet &gt; call flop imo.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree with fold but the other two are backwards. I'd nearly always fold this flop.

Brimstead 11-23-2007 05:56 PM

Re: NL100: Tough Spot when AQs makes TPTK on monotone flop
 
nasty spot... i fold because i dont want to play a big pot on that board.

Specialwon 11-23-2007 07:18 PM

Re: NL100: Tough Spot when AQs makes TPTK on monotone flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
fold &gt; 3bet &gt; call flop imo.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree with fold but the other two are backwards. I'd nearly always fold this flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why?


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