$11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

The villian in these two hands has been very loose, calling raises with a wide range of hands. Normally he calls flop bets with any pair no matter whether its TP/TK, two pair or a gutshot straight draw or a flush draw.

My reasoning behind checking was that I may be able to encourage a bet from a misguided bluff on the river, or a lesser pair, and also minimizing my losses by calling a smaller bet on river because his bets are generally small. Thoughts? Is my thinking process right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t3460)
<font color="#C00000">lone7wolf (t1440)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB (t2255)</font>
BB (t3185)
UTG (t1655)
MP (t2661)

Preflop: lone7wolf is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">lone7wolf raises to t90</font>, SB calls t75, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t270) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">lone7wolf bets t200</font>, SB calls t200, BB folds.

Turn: (t670) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, lone7wolf checks.

River: (t670) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t390</font>, lone7wolf calls t390.

Final Pot: t1450

This next hand is against same opponent, and a player just as loose as him in the BB, I thought about open shoving but thought that my stack was too big. Thoughts.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP (t3530)
<font color="#C00000">lone7wolf (t685)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button (t2640)</font>
SB (t3290)
BB (t1895)
UTG (t2616)

Preflop: lone7wolf is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">lone7wolf raises to t150</font>, Button calls t150, SB calls t125, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t500) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">lone7wolf bets t535 (All-In)</font>, Button calls t535, SB folds.

Turn: (t1570) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1570) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1570

Thank you!

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

hand 1 looks like a fold on the river. i guess if hes awful anything can be justified, though.

hand 2, both shoving and folding are better options with 12-13 BB then raising 3x.

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

I usually fold preflop at the low blind levels with A-rag. No need to steal the blinds at this point.

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

Thanks for the response AMT, I was just wondering if you could critique my thought process am I thinking through hands well especially the first one. What do you put villian on, we are getting decent odds on the river.

Hand 2: I think you are right, I am pissed about the way I played it, defintly should have shoved especially with the way villians were playing. I just thought that I might get more value this way since opponents are calling with such a large range and are going to miss the flop often.

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

fold both hands pre. These hands are both terrible for the exact reason you posted these hands; you just have no idea where you're at, and you can't get away from top pair if you are willing to call pre.

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

Yeah but I am very likely ahead of two random hands plus I have position, I think folding A3 on the button is too weak no matter what the blinds.

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

Fold pre both hands (and yes...i read your read on villain.)

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

ace-rag is a trouble hand early in any MTT. Fold both of them.

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

I fold both here. You're losing value pushing A3 with 12 bb left

Re: $11 6 max on stars, what to do against donk?
 

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The villian in these two hands has been very loose, calling raises with a wide range of hands. Normally he calls flop bets with any pair no matter whether its TP/TK, two pair or a gutshot straight draw or a flush draw.

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and also minimizing my losses by calling a smaller bet on river because his bets are generally small.

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Preflop: Early, Button raises 3xBB. SB calls. BB calls.
Flop: (t270) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Checked to The Original Raiser Who Bets ±2/3pot, One call.
Turn: (t670) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Both check.
River: (t670) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#CC3333">SB bets t390</font>

Given above reads, how often is this not a value bet?