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Pocketbear 11-19-2007 06:02 PM

($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
The villain is a solid regular (~9% ROI) with 9/2.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t20/t40
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2310
UTG+1: t1455
MP1: t1740
MP2: t1455
CO: t1290
Hero: t1290
SB: t2460
BB: t1500

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t60)</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t100)</font>, MP2 calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t140)</font>, CO calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t180)</font>, Hero calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t220)</font>, SB calls t20 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t260)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t280, 7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets t280</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t680</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises all-in t1415</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in t570</font>.

Standard even against this villain, right? What if the villain was, say, bigjoe?

vers 11-19-2007 06:04 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
villain can have so many overpairs and NFD/what he thinks are overs. On a non 3flush/3straight card board I'm never folding a set, vs anyone.

The4thFilm 11-19-2007 06:06 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
You cannot get away from this.

RexWoo 11-19-2007 06:24 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
Super standard against 100% of vilains, imo

aghasax 11-19-2007 07:05 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Super standard against 100% of vilains, imo

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Really? If I was sure villain knew that I was a winning multitabling 2+2 guy I think I could find a fold. Would he stack off with TT like this agains me?

Takeover_inc 11-19-2007 07:37 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
i don't think i could lay it down.

Even if he is a good player, good players make mistakes. He could be fast playing a weaker holding for some reason, tilt, rushed to play other tables, ect. And if he isn't there is near zero fault in going broke with bottom set on this board against anyone.

Draidin 11-19-2007 07:42 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
standard call. Dont fold a set on a board like this. Villain probably has an over pair like 88 or 99. Any pair higher and he would have raised being a solid player. or he too has a set 333 or 777.

Kevin8423 11-19-2007 08:39 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
Get all in and be happy about it.

KCW12 11-19-2007 08:41 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
You can never fold here after you already put more than half your stack into the pot. If he has a higher set, tough luck.

Pudge714 11-19-2007 09:23 PM

Re: ($24) ZOMG, never fold a set, right?
 
Kind of read dependent since there are lots of regulars here who suck and will show up with 88. Once you raise the flop you can't fold and his PSB on the flop makes sets unlikely imo. If you were to fold you would need to flat call the flop the first time around.


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