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catoandtonic 11-19-2007 04:55 AM

Thin value raise 25nl
 
The reason I post this hand is because I usually miss tons of value on river. My river raise was testing the boundaries of squeezing value. I know I should have c-bet more, but I do not think c-betting more is really going to change the dynamics of this hand much. Please focus on turn and river, especially river. However, all constructive comments appreciated.

FWIW, this river raise is the last cent I put into this pot. If raised, I insta-fold, knowing full well I am beat like 99%+. Thanks for thoughts.


<font color="blue">Villain is 43/9/1.3 over 67 hands. In previous hands he has been very active calling/raising with any piece of the board. I do not think he can lay down top pair, obv...</font>

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $27.45
SB: $25.10
BB: $30
UTG: $15.90
CO: $63.55

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $1

Flop: ($2.85) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, CO calls $2

Turn: ($6.85) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($6.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11</font>

Edit: title

stabbyah 11-19-2007 04:59 AM

Re: Thin value raise 25nl
 
I think you raise on the river should be smaller. Imo only a better hand is calling / raising if hes not totally retarded and if u want value from a weaker hand u should make it smaller around 8-9$ total.

[ QUOTE ]
FWIW, this river raise is the last cent I put into this pot. If raised, I insta-fold, knowing full well I am beat like 99%+. Thanks for thoughts.


[/ QUOTE ] And if u plan to fold if raised u've invested more than half ur stack it will be pretty bad to fold to a raise.

demon102 11-19-2007 05:02 AM

Re: Thin value raise 25nl
 
I raise to 7-8.50 for value that raise is huge and is likely to not get called as much

creamfillin 11-19-2007 05:16 AM

Re: Thin value raise 25nl
 
I agree. I like the raise, but make it a bit smaller.

Malifous 11-19-2007 05:17 AM

Re: Thin value raise 25nl
 
11 into pot of 9 is too much, if checked into you could overbet it a bit and hope Ax calls. I do this now and then since it kinda seems like a bluff/missed flushdraw. As played i reraise 7.5 or 8 and hope for a call.

hockeyf 11-19-2007 07:50 AM

Re: Thin value raise 25nl
 
I like this, he should have trouble putting you on a hand and call light.


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